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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

989.0. "V3.0 FILECAB & shared drawers" by NEWOA::SUTTON (Comfortably numb...) Mon Jul 06 1992 12:19

Looking for documentation on FILECAB and using shared drawers. I have the
following manuals in front of my bleary eyes:
	App. Prog. Guide	AA-KX89B-TE  Feb 92
	App. Prog. Ref Vol1	AA-KX91B-TE  Feb 92
	App. Prog. Ref Vol2    	AA-KX92B-TE  Feb 92
The Guide contains overview information about new drawers and associated
commands,  seems to reference Vol1 (Guide.17.3 etc) for using FILECAB commands
and the FILECAB DSAB. However, I cannot find descriptions of FILECAB or the
DSAB in either Vol1 or 2.

This information is required so we can convert a European area-internal
application to use Shared Drawers instead of GSFC's.

Where can I find documentation on FILECAB & drawers so I can sit down and
ponder the best solution?

	Ta.

	   Jezza

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989.1Maybe Terry should publish a book :-)IOSG::TALLETTArranging bits for a living...Mon Jul 06 1992 14:5710
    
    	Terry Porter has done a lot of work documenting the various
    	system files used in the shared file cabinet of V3.0. He has
    	produced an excellent support document which you can either get
    	through the A1INFO conference, or by sending him mail.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
    
    PS	I also tidied up your empty note/title problem!
989.2SPR for the benefit of allAIMTEC::WICKS_ADEC Mail Works for ME sometimesMon Jul 06 1992 17:429
    jezza,
    
    Of course the documentation on FILECAB should be in the customer
    doc-set for all to see and use and so i'd recommend you raise an SPR
    against the documentation.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
989.3Destructions pleaseNEWOA::SUTTONComfortably numb...Mon Jul 06 1992 18:1812
Re: .1		Can I have a mail address please? Either A1 or VAX. Will
		his document supply a list of FILECAB calls and syntax?

Re: .2		Last time I logged an SPR I was a customer. How do I do
		it 'internally'?

	Regards,

	  Jezza


[My day *did* actually improve, despite the wonderful start!]
989.4Answers AIMTEC::WICKS_ADEC Mail Works for ME sometimesMon Jul 06 1992 18:3412
    Jezza,       
    
    Terry's in England at the moment and his unread mail count is probably
    already pretty high - there are instructions in ABBOTT::A1INFO that list 
    the location of this document.
    
    Note 10 in this very conference gives details of how to submit SPRs.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
    
989.5I wouldn't publishIOSG::TALLETTArranging bits for a living...Mon Jul 06 1992 19:2215
    
    	Hmm. Not sure I agree it should be published info. I was going
    	to warn that the layout (and even existance of) FILECAB.DAT was
    	subject to change in a PFR, but then the base noter is only
    	interested in a one shot migration to V3.0 so I decided against
    	it.
    
    	If we publish the layout officially then we are stuck with it, even
    	if we say it may change in the future. If you read about it in an
    	internal document and base your life existance on it, then we're not.
    
    	IMHO,
    
    Regards,
    Paul
989.6But someone wouldAIMTEC::WICKS_ADEC Mail Works for ME sometimesMon Jul 06 1992 19:568
    Paul,
    
    But if the file layouts are published in a book by DIGITAL Press
    then why can't they go into the official doc-set also.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
989.7Note 4.2 (q.v.)IOSG::MARCHANTOnly parrots succeedMon Jul 06 1992 23:135
    See note 4.2 for details about obtaining membership of the A1INFO
    notesfile.

    Cheers,
        Paul.
989.8Just ell me what FILECAB calls I've gotNEWOA::SUTTONComfortably numb...Tue Jul 07 1992 10:014
All I really want is documentation on the FILECAB calls so I can use them. 
Is this available from A1INFO?

	Jezza
989.9Is there an echo in here?AIMTEC::WICKS_ADEC Mail Works for ME sometimesTue Jul 07 1992 18:378
    Jezza,
    
    Terry's document has everything - why don't you get a copy
    rather than ask the same question again?
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
989.10Documenting FILECAB in booksMAULS::REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindThu Jul 09 1992 16:4611
Re. reference to Digital Press books:

The books have caveats in them telling people that file layouts may change
and advising programmers to always access the underlying structures via
data sets.  

The structure of FILECAB may indeed feature in a forthcoming Digital Press
book, but I'll wait till I see it published before I guarantee that it comes
out...

Tony
989.11Yes, fine for file layouts, but . . .IOSG::SHOVEDave Shove -- REO-D/3CFri Jul 10 1992 17:019
    I think .0 was talking about the FILECAB API function? As that's part
    of the API, I assume we aren't thinking of changing it??
    
    Similarly for the dataset.
    
    (At home, so - as there still isn't a character cell version of
    Bookreader - I can't check the docset).
    
    Dave.
989.12It is thereIOSG::MAURICECeci n'est pas une noteFri Jul 10 1992 17:3711
    To follow up for Dave:
    
    The FILECAB data set is documented in APR Reference Volume 1. (It comes
    after FILE$ and before GROUP$)
    
    The FILECAB function is documented in APR Reference Volume 2. (It comes
    after FIELD and before FIND_FORM).
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
989.13NEWOA::SUTTONT3 or not T3, that is the questionThu Jul 16 1992 16:445
Yep. Despite the correct part-ids on my manuals, they
seemed to be 'old'. The bookreader set from the Reading
guys contained FIELCAB in all it's glory.

Jez
989.14filing from shared folder to shared drawerANGLIN::HARRISAhooked on DAVEThu Oct 07 1993 23:5718
    ALL-IN-1 3.0-1, VMS 5.5-2
    
    customer has a SHARED FOLDER (from 2.4 - NOT SFCP). customer has a
    SHARED DRAWER. they want to RFD or MCD a document directly from the
    SHARED FOLDER to the SHARED DRAWER. when doing this they get the error:
    
    "File Cabinet object does not exist"
    
    Found the DSN article about it, but the article is about unread mail.
    
    I told them to FT the document from the SHARED FOLDER to their personal
    account and then do RFD to the SHARED DRAWER, but it is felt that this
    is too many steps for the users.  
    
    Can this be done in 1 step?
    
    	ann
    
989.15IOSG::MAURICEDifferently hirsuteFri Oct 08 1993 09:5010
    Hi,
    
    I'm afraid the File Cabinet Server does not support shared folders, and
    since all cross-drawer operations use the FCS, it can't be made to
    work. Would it be possible for your customer to put the documents in
    the shared folder into a shared drawer?
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart