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| 943.1 | Confused Moderator | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | DEC Mail Works for ME sometimes | Fri Jun 26 1992 17:31 | 8 |
| Steve,
Is the same as the mysterious note 919 which has no title and
no author.
Regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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| 943.2 | Confused too | IOSG::TALLETT | Arranging bits for a living... | Mon Jun 29 1992 09:24 | 62 |
| Hi there!
I am also confused:
> In ALL-IN-1 IOS 3.0, when the manager or administrator shuts down
> ALL-IN-1 via the SDA option, there is the 'Automatic restart' field.
>
Yes. So we are talking about MSY SDA (not housekeeping procedures).
> A customer logged a call here at the CSC, saying that whenever he ran
> the SDA option, ALL-IN-1 didn't restart.
>
Hmm. I was the last to visit this code..... :-)
> There was no job on the batch queue to restart ALL-IN-1. He said that
> he has got field where he can put the 'Automatic restart' field in. Our
> fresh installation of 3.0, the field is there, so the first question is
> Should it be, or was it missing?
>
Erm, in both cases you say the field is there. I guess there is a typo
here and one of them should say that it wasn't there. Well the
answer is, it should be there. Here's a screen dump:
Shutdown ALL-IN-1
Shutdown at: Date: 29-Jun-1992
Time:
Start notifying users 30 minutes before shutdown
Reason:
Automatic restart: N
Restart information (displayed in shutdown messages):
Date:
Time:
Enter the details of shutdown and the restart information; press RETURN to
Also, you should be getting a batch job to restart things
submitted (SM_RESTART.COM).
> Another thing is that the restart job could be resubmitted from two
> places.
>
> 1) When the SDA housekeeping procedure is submitted, if the symbol
> #AUTO_RESTART is set to "Y"
>
This doesn't seem to have anything to do with the first half of
your question. This is the SDA housekeeping procedure, which
has little to do with the SDA option. I don't know much about
these procedures. I think you are debugging in the wrong place.
You need to find out why the restart job isn't getting submitted.
Regards,
Paul
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| 943.3 | Check ALL-IN-1 Account Info In MHP | XLII::FDONOHUE | | Mon Jun 29 1992 14:24 | 73 |
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This has been seen after installing V3.0 when some of the
fields used to define where/how to submit the batch
procedure are left blank.
Refer to the STARS article below and check this out.
Good luck,
Faith donohue
**************************************************************
Housekeeping: 'Failed to submit job to batch-invalid VMS username'
COPYRIGHT (c) 1991, 1992 by Digital Equipment Corporation.
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. No distribution except as provided under contract.
PRODUCT: ALL-IN-1 IOS V3.0
OP/SYS: VAX VMS
SOURCE: Customer Support Center/USA
PROBLEM:
When attempting to perform a shutdown of ALL-IN-1 using
SDA, it results in the following error:
Failed to submit job to batch - invalid VMS username
Auto Restart does not get submitted to batch when Auto Restart
is selected when submitting the SDA procedure. The error message
in the log is:
Invalid VMS Username
ANALYSIS:
This error also occurs when attempting to schedule other
housekeeping procedures that must run in batch on this
system.
CAUSE:
The 'Account for batch jobs' field specified in Set
Systems Policies (MGT MSY SSP) is blank so the
housekeeping procedure cannot successfully be submitted
to batch.
SOLUTION:
After an upgrade to V3.0 many of the fields (which
are new with V3.0) on the Set System Poilicies form
are not populated.
Make sure that all the fields under Set System Policies
(MGT MSY SSP) are completed with valid information for
the system.
Modify the information using SM MSY SSP to use the
MANAGER account for the following:
ALL-IN-1 Accounts:
Account for batch jobs: MANAGER
Account to receive exception reports: MANAGER
Holding account for orphan drawers: MANAGER
.
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| 943.4 | Well, it was Friday afternmoon. | KERNEL::LOAT | Bored....Bored....BORED!!!! | Tue Jun 30 1992 11:31 | 26 |
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Okay, so the base note was more than a little confused! That's what
comes of noting on a Friday afternoon! here's what it *should* have
said!
When scheduling the SDA housekeeping procedure, there used to be a
field which specified if you wanted to do an auto-restart of ALL-IN-1.
This field has disappeared in 3.0. This worried the customer somewhat
as his system wasn't restarting after the SDA housekeeping procedure.
Looking into this, it looks like when the housekeeping procedure runs,
it checks the value of "SM_SH_SCHEDULE.OASH_RESTART[CLI$NBS_RUN_TIME]"
to see if ALL-IN-1 should be restarted. This value is always 0, and I
cannot find anywhere where this field is written to, so this means that
ALL-IN-1 will not restart correctly.
Where does ALL-IN-1 decide that the SDA housekeeping procedure should
restart ALL-IN-1?
Hope this is a little clearer!
Steve
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| 943.5 | missing auto_restart field on sm_skedform_sh | OASS::VALDEZ_C | A smile is the same in any language | Wed Jul 01 1992 20:06 | 17 |
| Hi Steve,
I was working with someone who was SRF'ing this the other day. What I noticed
in my preliminary look at the SM_SKEDFORM_SH form (displayed when you create
the SDA procedure) is that there is named data for a field called AUTO_RESTART
but no field on the form by that name. When I added a 1-character field
called AUTO_RESTART, it appeared to default to Y and did seem to set a 1 in
SM_SH_SCHEDULE.OASH_RESTART. However, when I tried to put an N (no, don't
restart) in my field, it seemed to still want me to put in a restart date and
time. At that point, I was pulled off of the problem.
Maybe someone can take it from here and tell us if the answer is as simple as
adding the field or if there is another way.
As far as I know, it was officially SRF'ed.
Cindy
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| 943.6 | Use MGT MSY SDA To Restart? | XLII::FDONOHUE | | Fri Jul 10 1992 21:27 | 42 |
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I have been looking at this to try and figure it out but I think that
I am more confused.
First, in both V2.4 and V3.0 there are two ways through the User
Interface to shutdown ALL-IN-1. From SDA menu option (V2.4 on MGT
menu, V3.0 on MGT MSY menu) and then by creating a housekeeping
procedure using MGT (MSY in V3.0) MHP C SDA.
It looks like the SDA menu option (form SM$SHUTDOWN) in both
versions allows you to specify a Automatic Restart if you wish.
But, when you create a housekeeping procedure SDA the form in
V3.0 (SM_SKEDFORM_SH) does not contain an Automatic Restart
field for the user to input to. In V2.4 it does. Both versions
contain fields for restart time and date. In V3.0 these are
required response fields, in V2.4 it doesn't seem to require
input (even if you answer Y to Auto restart?).
So, for now it looks like either you must use the MGT MSY SDA
menu option in V3.0 if you want to specify an auto restart when
you shutdown or modify the form layout (as Cindy stated in previous
reply) to add a 1 character field for a Y/N input named AUTO_RESTART
to the SM_SKEDFORM_SH form. This form already contains the named data
to handle the input to this field but the field isn't defined on the
screen layout. If you do this notice that even if you state N to
auto restart, it will still require the restart time and date be
filled in. This is consistant with the SDA menu option. Engineering
has responded to this as the designed behaviour, as even if it doesn't
restart automatically, it will be restarted sometime and this
information is used for display purposes.
Can anyone in the know out there in SM land let us know if this is an
oversight or if there was a problem with this restart feature and
maybe it was left out intentionally. Is the recommendation to use
the SDA menu option to shutdown?
Frustrated and confused,
Faith
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| 943.7 | Add AUTO_RESTART ... | ZUR01::KURTH | Peter Kurth @RLE, R�mlang (CH) | Wed Feb 03 1993 12:48 | 15 |
| Just for completeness:
See STARS article titled "No Automatic Restart Flag When Schedule
Shutdown (SDA) From MHP"
(...) It is recommended that you use the SDA option from
the MSY menu to schedule an automatic restart when shutting down
ALL-IN-1.
Another possible alternative is to use Customization Management to
modify the form layout of the SM_SKEDFORM_SH scheduling form and
add a 1 character field named AUTO_RESTART. Once defined the existing
named data in the form should schedule the automatic restart successfully.
Regards, Peter
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