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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

842.0. "English/French/Dutch V2.3 housekeeping" by SED750::MOTTO () Wed Jun 10 1992 11:19

    I have a customer running ALL-IN-1 V2.3 in three different languages
    (English, French, Dutch) on 3 separate nodes.  They have not installed
    any patches and apart from emptying wastebaskets and updating mail
    addresses they have run no housekeeping routines.  They also have
    numerous accounts on the system for people who left several years ago
    and the average oa$sharXXX contains in excess of 4,000 files.
    
    We have recommended that they clean the system up prior to the
    upgrade and to this end I am putting together a list of housekeeping
    routines for them to run.  I seem to remember something about one (or
    more) of the housekeeping routines requiring a patch before running
    correctly (English version) but can't seem to find anything about this.
    
    Can anyone help me on this or point me in the right direction for
    documentation please?  
    
    Could anyone with experience of Dutch/French ALL-IN-1 also let me know
    if there are any gotchas that I need to be aware of.
    
    Thanks in advance..
    
    Jo
    
    
    
    
     
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842.1TRM is oneAIMTEC::PORTER_TTerry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSCWed Jun 10 1992 16:3837
    Jo,
    
    One of the (many) housdekeeping procedures that need to be run is TRM
    and the patch K537 replaces the V2.3 TRM with the V2.4 TRM (suitably
    addapted to run on V2.3) which is a LOT faster and contains many bug
    fixes. I would strongly recomend installing K537 before running TRM
    especially if it had never been run before.
    
    Note: TRM and FCVR are two names for the same thing (I think it was
    still called FCVR in V2.3 documentation).
    
    Patch K537 replaces K536 as the latest and greatest TRM for V2.3.
    
    As for other housekeeping procedures I don't remember any critical bug
    fixes in patches, but then I have not read the release notes for V2.3
    patches for a long time, I would suggest reading the release notes for
    each patch to be sure.
    
    And finally do NOT run RSD, given the state of the customer's system I
    would just create a new set of shared directories and point the write
    window at them.
    
    If any of the shared directory directory files (i.e. the .dir files for
    the directories containing the document body files) are over 128 blocks
    then access to those directories will take a performance hit (after VMS
    V5.2 the extent of the performance hit is reduced but not removed).
    Once the system has been tidied up it may be worth while re-building
    the large directory files to get the size of them down. To re-build a
    directory file create a new (empty) directory on the same disk, rename
    all the files from the old directory into the new directory, delete the 
    old directory file (now empty) and rename the new directory file to be
    the same name and location as the old directory file.
    
    HTH
    
    Terry
    
842.2Skip RSDUTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTSweden, here we comeWed Jun 10 1992 17:4328
    
       Hello Jo,
       
       Don't use RSD in 2.3. Why not upgrade to 2.4 and then
       cleanup ?
       
       Gotchas ? What's the primary language ? 
       
       If English is not primary, read note 1561 of the 2.4 conference.
       
       If Dutch is primary, read note 2108 of the 2.4 conference.
       
       Just out of interest, which customer spreekt Nederlands, parle
       France and speaks English ?
       
       Regards,
       
       Jan
    
    Thanks in advance..
    
    
    
    
    
     

       
842.3A better explanation...SED750::MOTTOWed Jun 10 1992 18:0916
    Thanks for your replies
    
    Jan - what would I gain from cleaning up at V2.4 over doing it at 2.3?
    
    >>What's the primary language?
    
    sorry - I obviously didn't explain properly in my base note - they have
    three ALL-IN-1 systems - 1 running English, 1 French and the
    other, you guessed it Dutch.
    
    Thanks
    
    Jo
    
    
      
842.4PAULUS::HOFMANNStefan Hofmann, LC Frankfurt, ISEThu Jun 11 1992 08:127
    Jo,
    
    from your last reply I understand that there are three separate
    mono-lingual installations. Thus you should not expect language
    specific problems in the non-English cleanups.
              
    	Stefan
842.5less "opportunities"UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTSweden, here we comeThu Jun 11 1992 08:4535
    Jo,
       
>>    Jan - what would I gain from cleaning up at V2.4 over doing it at 2.3?
       
       With 2.4 you have a version with less "opportunities",
       RSD is fixed, you don't need to install any 2.3 patches.
       
       Large shared directories will not influence the upgrade time.
    
>    >>What's the primary language?
    
>    sorry - I obviously didn't explain properly in my base note - they have
>    three ALL-IN-1 systems - 1 running English, 1 French and the
>    other, you guessed it Dutch.
       
       Ok. So no license problems.
       
       For the Dutch version, you will have to recreate
       OA$DATA:OA$SM_UTILITY_MASTER.DAT (note 2108 in 2.4 conf) :
       
       CREATE SM_UTILITY_MASTER ,
       DO SM_UTILITY_MASTER_PREPOP.SCP
                                                                   
       Regards,
       
       Jan
       
    
    Thanks
    
    
    
      

       
842.6SED750::MOTTOMon Jun 15 1992 10:449
    Re .4
    
    I was asking the question in case there were any probs with the Dutch
    or French ALL-IN-1 housekeeping routines necessitating a patch before
    running.
    
    Regards
    
    Jo
842.7No language probs.UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERTSweden, here we comeMon Jun 15 1992 10:5011
    
    >I was asking the question in case there were any probs with the Dutch
    >or French ALL-IN-1 housekeeping routines necessitating a patch before
    >running.
    
    I don't think there are language dependent problems.
    
    Regards,
    
    Jan
    
842.8PAULUS::HOFMANNStefan Hofmann, LC Frankfurt, ISETue Jun 16 1992 07:364
    For V2.4 I know of Danish and Spanish patches; never heard about French
    or Dutch patches
    
    	Stefan