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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

804.0. "Tracking Shared document access" by AUNTB::BOUDREAUX () Thu Jun 04 1992 14:53

    Greetings,
    
    I have a customer who would like to know how to track the number of
    times each document within the SHARED FOLDER (e.g. [Project]plan ) is
    accessed (e.g. SELect, Read, Print etc) by each ALL-IN-1 user.
    
    Has any one out there encountered this kind of challenge? Can someone
    be kind enough to shed some light on this for me?
    
    Thank you very much in advance for your support.
    
    Theresa
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804.1Not easyLARVAE::JORDANChris Jordan, Digital Services - Office Consultant, LondonThu Jun 04 1992 15:4813
    I would argue VERY strongly against SELect... does an Index list that
    include that document mean it is selected??
    Or does moving the cursor to that document on the index form mean it is
    selected, even if the user immeditely moves to another document??
    
    For reading and printing... then I think the only way is to modify the
    R and P options to add to a log file the document name, the date and
    the username...
    
    BUT... do they provide the same restrictive logging on PAPER copies of
    documents?? 
    Will they do anything USEFUL with the statistics that they gather!?
    
804.2SET VOLUME/RETENTIONIOSG::TALLETTArranging bits for a living...Thu Jun 04 1992 17:2517
    
    	I think the way to go on this one is to get VMS to track access
    	dates on the underlying files (in the shared areas or the .DOC
    	subdirectories), then add a customisation to display the info.
    
    	Making VMS track file accesses can be done with a trick on a
    	per volume basis using SET VOLUME /RETENTION=(...). This is
    	discussed in detail in the VMSNOTES conference.
    
    	I'd love to see this done, and I'd like to see a mail janitor
    	that refiles stuff in a special wastebasket based on access
    	dates, and empties the special wastebasket after its been there
    	a month. You could set it up for IF NOT ACCESSED FOR 2 YEARS and
    	it would still junk lots of mail...
    
    Regards,
    Paul
804.3How about this...AUNTB::BOUDREAUXThu Jun 04 1992 19:5333
    Hi,
    
    After talking with the customer more in detail, they really don't care
    about each document within the SHARED FOLDERs, only insterested in the
    SHARED FOLDER itself.
    
    I'm thinking to provide them with a output file look something like
    this:
    
    	USER NAME 	[SHARED 1]	[SAHRED 2] 	[SHARED 3]  ..... 
    
    	USER1		    24		    51       	    20
    	USER2	             5              12              9
    	  .
    	  .
    	  .
    
    Each time a SHARED FOLDER is SELected (they only care about when user
    selecting the shared folder), the counter should be incremented by 1
    depending on which one of the SHARED FOLDERs has been selected.
    
    I'm thinking of extracting the USERNAME from the profile.dat and create
    a data file with the folder counter fields and modify the SELect
    function to do a post function just add 1 to the correct counter etc.
    
    Do you think that's doable?  Then again I'm open for suggestions.
    
    Thank you again for your support, it is greatly appreciated.
    
    Theresa
     
    
    
804.4Consider the implications of V3.0IOSG::MAURICEA few follicles shortThu Jun 04 1992 21:3413
    When your customer upgrades to V3.0 they may very well wish to use
    shared drawers instead of shared folders. This does not solve your
    problem, but it does mean that you have to consider whether much effort
    is worthwhile if it is wasted soon after an upgrade. I would recommend
    that you ask the customer when they plan to upgrade.
    
    It is a shame that requirements like this do not seem to have made
    their way into the list for the next release. Indeed there is not one
    request for File Cabinet enhancements on the list.
    
    :^(
    
    Stuart