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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

650.0. "Can't access a CONFERENCE, but could befor" by KAOFS::D_STREET () Thu May 07 1992 20:57

    Hello,
    	 I have a user who has a confrence (in GPC) that they have been
    	useing for quite a while. Now they cannot access it any more. 
    	I had the customer rename the note file, delete the confrence,
    	create a new confrence, and rename the note file back to the 
    	original name. This did not help. The customer could access the
    	confrence until we rename the file. Protections are correct, does
    	anyone have any other ideas we can try??
    
    
    						Thanks
    
    						Derek Street
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650.1Check the Restricted Flag?USHS09::REINDLThe Duckbilled Platypus has no NavelThu May 07 1992 21:197
    
    Is it possible someone modified the conference profile and set it
    restricted? If it's restricted, the moderator of the conference needs
    to add the users to the conferences access list through AM Add Member
    option. Either that or remove the restricted flag.
    
    - Henry
650.2Error message?PAJERO::RHOTONJohn Rhoton @TNO - DTN 871.7947Fri May 08 1992 09:484
    Can they access the conference using the DCL command-line interface of
    VAX Notes?  If not, what is the error message?
    
    John
650.3Could not access as moderatorKAOFS::D_STREETFri May 08 1992 20:4314
    Hello again,
    
    	 I asked the customer to try to access the confrence from two
    	accounts, both of which were supposed to be set up a moderators. 
    	Each account could not AC (Add Conference). They could not tab
    	off of the CONFRERENCE: field. He got an error message:
    
    	Unable to access conference - Continue? 
    
    	 The location is notes$library:sponge.note, and the file is there.
    
    	Hopefully this will shed some light on the problem....
    
    						Derek Street
650.4DCL NOTES could find the file..KAOFS::D_STREETFri May 08 1992 21:2323
    in response to 650.2:
    
    	 The user accessed it from DCL with windows interface and the CLASS
    	showed up, inside the calss the NOTE showed up, but when he tried
    	to access it he got:
    
    		ERROR OPENING NOTES$LIBRARY:.NOTE
    
    	 We assumed that the internal pointer to the file had been lost,
    	so we deleted the confrence, and added it again. This time when
    	he tried to access it, he got a message saying that he was not 
    	a member of the conference. (he was supposed to be a moderator)
    	Then we tried from tha account that created the confrence (and
    	was also supposed to be a moderator), then we tried from the 
    	ALLIN1 account, and the SYSTEM account. All were not members.
    
    	 IT appears that NOTES can now find the file, but we do not know
    	who is allowed to access it (if anybody). Is there a way to
    	determin who has access, or a way to force access to the confrence.
    
    			Thanks for the help so far....
    
    					Derek Street
650.5PAJERO::RHOTONJohn Rhoton @TNO - DTN 871.7947Sat May 09 1992 11:0438
    re: .4
    
    There are two explanations I can think of for this problem:
    
    1) VAX Notes on the target node does not identify the users as they are
    registered in the membership list.  Typically this could happen if the
    target node's NCP database does not list the user's node in the same
    way as it is in the conference or if the volatile NCP database does not
    list the user's node at all.  
    
    Find out the user's node number, for example:
    
    	MCR NCP SHOW NODE xxxxxx
    
    Query the target node and match them:
    
    	MCR NCP TELL yyyyyy SHOW NODE xxxxxx
    
    
    There can also be other problems like cluster aliases but they are a
    little more difficult to diagnose without being able to access the
    conference. If you remember how the users were registered the easiest
    way to see if this is the problem is to create a temporary
    untrestricted conference on the target node and enter a note from the
    user's account then look at the authour's node-username and see if they
    match.
    
    2)  It is also possible that the conference has become corrupted and
    the membership list is either corrupt or missing.  The only way I know
    to deal with this situation (which would also help in the first
    scenario) is to use PAN (see conference ASICS::PAN).  Unfortunately I
    believe this tool is only available for internal use.  So, for a
    customer, you would need to copy the conference on to the E-net, run the
    tool to diagnose/fix the problem and copy the conference back.
    
    I hope this helps,
    
    John