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642.1 | Some vague recollections | AIMTEC::WICKS_A | The Mancs will NEVER win the lge | Thu May 07 1992 18:59 | 22 |
| Pam,
The jury so to speak is still out on this one. Access technologies who
produce 20/20 were a Field test site for DIAMOND and we (the CSC) were
dealing with them. Then Access got taken over by Computer Associates
and as a legal matter I think the FT license was rescinded until the
new owners signed it and then things went quiet and our phone calls
were never returned.
I guess you can try it and see but until it is certified by CA (or
whoever) it is not covered by the agreement we have to support 20/20
for ALL-IN-1. I think somebody did do an upgrade of a system with 20/20
on it and of course somethings didn't work - some messages and
customisations did not work (of course if we'd run the CART....)
If anyone knows who the 20/20 counterpart from DIGITAL is (probably
somebody out of TTB) then we can probably pursue it that route.
regards,
Andrew.D.Wicks
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642.2 | They'll need a new version. (20/20 that is) | SIOG::T_REDMOND | Thoughts of an Idle Mind | Mon May 11 1992 00:22 | 14 |
| From experience gained from running CART on several customer sites it
seems that 20/20 elements are "dumped" into ALL-IN-1 rather than being
correctly registered in CM. As such the 20/20 elements are reported in
the site elements report and not scanned by the CART. But there are
several flavours of 20/20 and its integration with ALL-IN-1 so this
problem may be limited to one or more of these.
As 20/20 deals with the File Cabinet it's very likely that a new
version will be required to handle ALL-IN-1 V3.0. For example, the
current code is highly unlikely to be able to place a model or
worksheet into a drawer that is shared and located on a remote system,
especially if the user doesn't have write access!
Tony
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642.3 | Can't run 20/20 MACROS Resident in File Cabinet | SUBURB::TAFF::Wob | Robert Screene, UK Finance EUC | Mon Jun 08 1992 12:59 | 35 |
| Hi,
I have isolated a problem with the 20/20 Spreadsheet Processing
ALL-IN-1 Menu, specifically the 20/20 v3 release, running under
Diamond. I think is has fixes for most problems mentioned earlier in
this topic.
In the past, 20/20 would store it's macros in the ALL-IN-1 File
Cabinet as .WPL files. They were always actually stored as plain
ASCII, but were given the User's default file type. In most cases
this is .WPL, however the files are not WPS-PLUS format, as the .WPL
file type should imply to ALL-IN-1.
Now the 20/20 v3 ALL-IN-1 Menu allows any old document to be run as a
macro. It now takes notice of the .WPL type and expects the file to
be WPS-PLUS format. This gives a "bad filename" error while in 20/20.
The effect of this on the User is that no pre-v3 macros held in the
file cabinet can be run. Eek!
A horrid workaround is to rename each .WPL macro file to .TXT, then
use the document convertor to make it back into a REAL .WPL format file.
I am looking a writing a script routine which will do this in a loop
for a User's account. Trouble is, this will wreck a genuine WPS-PLUS
file; easily done if you run this script twice.
Does anyone know a way to determine if a .WPL file actually contains a
valid WPS-PLUS format file. The TEXT_FILE and COPY functions don't
seem to set OA$STATUS if there is merely ASCII text inside the input
file.
Has anyone else encountered this problem? Any fixes?
Regards,
Robert.
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642.4 | Some suggestions | IOSG::NEWLAND | Richard Newland, IOSG, REO1-D/4A | Tue Jun 09 1992 14:59 | 35 |
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The TEXT_FILE and COPY functions utilize the ALL-IN-1 text dataset
mechanism which supports all file formats for which a text dataset exists
on your system. These formats include ASCII, WPS-PLUS and DX. The setting
of OA$STATUS will not be influenced by the format of the file. 'TEXT' in
this context refers to the Text dataset mechanism and not text files.
Some ways you may be able to determine if your file with a .WPL file type
is a WPS-PLUS file are:
1. Use the TEXT_FILE RETURN sub-function. You may be able to determine
from information such as the RULER, LINE_TYPE, etc. what type of file
your are dealing with.
2. Use the FILE$ dataset to get information about the file. ASCII files
normally have a Record format which is variable length whereas WPS-PLUS
files are fixed length. This may allow you to distinguish between the
two types of files.
Having identified which files need to be converted you could use the
following method to do it:
copy #FILE_SPEC #FILE_SPEC "" TXT$DSAB_ASCII
.if oa$status == 1 then get oa$function = 'PURGE_FILE ' #FILE_SPEC
The COPY function normally selects the dataset used to read or write the
files based on the file type (e.g. .WPL for WPS-PLUS). The fourth
parameter on the COPY function will cause the ASCII text dataset to be used
to read the input file regardless of the file type. And, since the
original file is unuseable you may as well purge it.
Richard
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