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Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 |
Moderator: | IOSG::PYE |
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Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 4343 |
Total number of notes: | 18308 |
530.0. "Use of VMS-accounting in connection with ALL-IN-1" by COPCLU::SIIG (Great Dane at Large) Tue Apr 21 1992 11:57
Hi,
A customer of mine wishes to utilize VMS Accounting in a special way for
users running ALL-IN-1. The following is the customers own description of
their goals:
Our need for writing in VMS Accounting-file in connection with
implementing ALL-IN-1 as a menu system is based on the following
situation.
o From a menu point in ALL-IN-1 the user activates an
application or one of our standard tools - for instance our
economy system or SAS software
o We settle the users process-consumption (CPU- and elapsed
time) on base of collected data in the accounting files
o As long as the user use ALL-IN-1 facilities we want to
include the consumption of this process in the settling
o As soon as the user activates an application or standard tool
and until the user leaves this by returning to the ALL-IN-1
menu we want to:
- include the process consumption from the application or
standard tool in the settling
- exclude the process consumption from the ALL-IN-1 process
from the settling
o We use accounting data to follow the total performance and
load on the nodes
This means that we have to write directly into the accounting files
by a time stamp and setting a 'flag' for instance in the user_data
field to be able to make a correct settling of accounts.
Furthermore it should be mentioned, that we have more than one node
in our network. ALL-IN-1 is installed on one node. The different
nodes have different software licenses, for instance only SAS
software on one node and only ORACLE on another node. Nevertheless
all applications should be activated from ALL-IN-1.
We want to use VMS accounting as the fundamental base for the
settling, because we have the standard version of SAS/CPE to make
the calculations and billing to our users. We have a general demand
of keeping our maintenance of the system as low as possible
especially in connection with upgrading to new versions of VMS,
ALL-IN-1 ... and all other software products and applications.
Anyone care to comment on their suggestion on using the user data type of
ACCOUNTING record for this purpose, and the feasibility of working with
the data afterwards using SAS/CPE. I have some doubts about this, any
other suggestions?
Regards,
Jesper
PS: This note is posted in VAXWRK::VMSnotes and in IOSG::ALL-IN-1
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530.1 | | MRKTNG::SLATER | Marc, 264-6309; Beyond this place there be dragons. | Wed Apr 22 1992 04:37 | 7 |
| Jesper,
The major obstacle in using VMS Accounting is that you cannot account
seperately for time spent in shared images. The resources end up
being charged against the ALL-IN-1 image.
MS
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530.2 | ALL-IN-1 Metering might offer some value | BUFFER::VICKERS | Perfect is the enemy of good | Wed Apr 22 1992 06:36 | 9 |
| ALL-IN-1 Metering would provide a decent way to achieve much of the
results that are being requested by the customer. It sounds like VMS
accounting has been mandated but may be a lot of trouble.
I would suggest that you examine the possibilities of using Metering.
Take a look at the Manahement Guide for ALL-IN-1 for some details.
Good luck,
don
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