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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

525.0. "ALL-IN-1 v3.0 SSB kit available" by CVMS::DOTEN (stay hungry) Mon Apr 20 1992 17:09

Is the A1030 SSB kit available on the network somewhere?

-Glenn-
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525.1The kit should be available soonBUFFER::VICKERSPerfect is the enemy of goodMon Apr 20 1992 18:4513
    It is my understanding that the kit will be generally available as soon
    as the official kit is shipping from the SSB.  I believe that will be
    within days (of course, days can become a week).

    There is some real concern about having a network kit as there was a
    case where an earlier kit for V3 was taken directly from the network to
    a customer's site.  This caused some harm to that customer as well as a
    great deal of teeth gnashing at the CSC.

    The kit availability will be announced here as soon as it is available.

    Hang in there,
    don
525.2See my personal name?AIMTEC::WICKS_AMore Ship dates than actual ShipsMon Apr 20 1992 19:4214
    Re .0,
    
    Don has explained things eloquently as usual and i'm sure that when our
    U.K based friends return from their long easter holiday tomorrow that
    some announcement about the availability of a network kit will be
    forthcoming.
    
    Partly because I like ALL-IN-1 to be spelt correctly and partly because
    I wish I still got the long easter u.k holidays I have modified the
    note title to include ALL-IN-1 instead of A1 (:==:)
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.wicks
525.3We'll keep an eye out - thanksCVMS::DOTENstay hungryMon Apr 20 1992 23:2111
Thanks for the info.

But what do you mean by a network kit? I'm looking for the SSB kit that I can
happen to copy via the network. After all, once A1030 is available on ConDist
then by default there is a "network kit" available at probably hundreds of
CD readers. What difference does it make if the SSB kit is available from a
CD-ROM on the network or from a magnetic disk on the network? Conceivably
someone could just as easily copy a kit from CD-ROM to tape and send that to
a customer.

-Glenn-
525.4What is an SSB kit?AIMTEC::PORTER_TTerry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSCMon Apr 20 1992 23:4117
The problem that occured previously was that a kit was submitted to SSB and
made available across the network at the same time. For whatever reason this
kit got onto a customer system at about the same time as it was pulled from
the SSB. Now the customer thinks they have an SSB kit and they don't.

3 kits later the real (we hope) SSB kit has been submitted, however it will
probably not be available on the net until there is no chance that the kit
will be pulled from SSB (which in theory is FCS, but in practice is probably
a little earlier than that).

The bottom line is that there is no SSB kit until the SSB ships one to a 
customer, submitting a kit to SSB only makes it a potential SSB kit.

At least that's how I understand it.

Terry

525.5CVMS::DOTENstay hungryTue Apr 21 1992 00:5514
>3 kits later the real (we hope) SSB kit has been submitted, however it will
>probably not be available on the net until there is no chance that the kit
>will be pulled from SSB (which in theory is FCS, but in practice is probably
>a little earlier than that).

This is what we are looking for. The same kit that is being used as the FCS kit
(which is what most people refer to as an SSB kit).

I hope it's made available via the network at FCS so that us internal folks don't
have to wait for the first ConDist that contains 3.0.

-Glenn-

P.S: An SSB kit can still go on engineering hold after FCS.
525.6I'm more cautious than Terry!IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeTue Apr 21 1992 19:0316
    re .5
    
    <<< P.S: An SSB kit can still go on engineering hold after FCS.
    
    Exactly! So I'd modify Terry's statement in .4:
    
    <<< 3 kits later the real (we hope) SSB kit has been submitted, however it
    <<< will probably not be available on the net until there is no chance that
    <<< the kit will be pulled from SSB (which in theory is FCS, but in
    <<< practice is probably a little earlier than that).
    
    I'd like to see a few hundred (thousand??) kits on customer sites, so
    that the chance of the kit being pulled and replaced is less likely
    than us issuing an immediate patch!
    
    Graham
525.7IOSG::TALLETTJust one more fix, then we can ship...Tue Apr 21 1992 20:184
    
    <<< P.S: An SSB kit can still go on engineering hold after FCS.
    
    	But its still an SSB kit if enough shipped...
525.8See 7.6 for the latest informationBUFFER::VICKERSPerfect is the enemy of goodTue Apr 21 1992 20:505
    The current kit information is now posted in 7.6 of this conference
    thanks to Karl Barth who does the right thing once again.
    
    Have fun,
    don