Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

    Beth,
    
    This has already been reported to Engineering as a QAR (ALF467)
    against ALL-IN-1 DIAMOND in that any and all upgrades from the option
    kit will display the error:
    
    %PURGE-W-FILNOTPUR, error deleting
    A1$DISK:[ALLIN1.SYSTEM_DICTIONARIES]GROUP.LGP
    -RMS-E-PRV, insufficient privilege or file protection violation               
    %PURGE-W-FILNOTPUR, error deleting
    A1$DISK:[ALLIN1.SYSTEM_DICTIONARIES]CORPORATE.LGP
    -RMS-E-PRV, insufficient privilege or file protection violation               
    
    immediately after the "moving files to target directories" message
    
    proof if it were needed that the files put there by the option kit
    have the wrong protection. The ones in DIAMOND are correct
    
    Now if you'd read my STARS article (:==:)
    
    The workaround (it's not pretty) is either to set the protection correctly
    by hand! or do one of those CAB CHANGE_ATTRIBUTE thingies on the DOCDB
    field DELETEABLE or delete the files by hand or ...
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks                                                 
    

    Although the problem that Andy describes in .1 is a problem, it isn't
    the one that was asked about in .0!
    
    I don't know if delete user does something special to avoid deleting
    the system wide dictionaries, but they seem to be created with DELETE=Y
    in V3.0 too...
    
    Perhaps a more knowledgeable Delete user or WPS-PLUS expert will
    comment tomorrow?
    
    Graham

    GAP,
    
    Actually the documents pointing to the group and corporate lgp files are 
    created in v3.0 with DELETABLE set to N not Y as you say. Obviously the N 
    key on your keyboard types the letter Y the same as when you type the 
    letters 'rew' the letter 'y' appears - must be those long easter holidays 
    getting to you?
    
    The STARS article I have refers to both the upgrading to DIAMOND problem
    (the protection on the VMS files) and the Delete User problem so
    whilst there were be two 'opportunities' stored in the vaults of TIME
    there is but one STARS article so I did know a little bit about what
    I was talking about.
    
    If you take a look at LNGSPLINI.SCP in OA$DO: you'll see it's well
    commented and uses the CABINET RESET_DELETE function to mark the
    documents as non-deletable and it is quite a deliberate change made
    and commented as 10-Jun-1991 - you'll see I do do some research despite
    not being knowledgable (:==:)
    
    I'm sure I could bore you with what Delete User does with documents that are
    marked deletable and what it does with files in a user or system
    directory but I know you can read DCL. 
    
    Since Beth sits a few yards away from me and even though she uses the wrong 
    CSC ALL-IN-1 Production node to note from we'll let her work it out.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
    

    Well I must have had mine created on an older base level, since mine
    are definitely set to "Y"
    
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Subject:
Title:               CORPORATE/EXCEPTION WORD DICTI
Sender:
Senders Full Name:
Senders Tel No:

Current Drawer:      MAIL
Drawer Owner:        PYE
Current Folder:      SYSTEM WIDE DICTIONARIES     Status:
Type of Document:                                 Document Number:   047900
Date Created:        14-May-1991 09:13am          Modifiable:        Y
Last Modified:       19-Nov-1991 01:48pm          Deletable:         Y
Date Sent:                                        Forwardable:
Date Posted:                                      Read Receipt:
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Handling:            DICTIONARY                   Data Type:        
DICTIONARY
MR id:
VMS Filename:        OA$SYSTEM_DICTIONARIES:CORPORATE.LGP

Addressees:

    GAP,
    
    Yes you do - yours were created on May 14 and the code change was made
    on Jun 10.
    
    Anyone else use use before BL70? Where are the experts when you need
    them ....
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks