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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

501.0. "V3.0 QUESTIONS" by OLDBAY::HENNEGAN () Wed Apr 15 1992 21:13

Can someone please help me out with some V3.0 questions?

1.	Machine Sizing and performance - How much additional (if any)
	memory will V3 require for equal performance?

2.	Will remote users need an ALL-IN-1 account to share documents?
	(Some of their sites have VMS only)

3.	If a single drawer is used instead of allowing multiple drawers
	how many additional blocks (disk space) will be needed?

4.	Time Management - have meeting notice fields been expanded beyond
	32 characters?

5.	Will WPS-PLUS 4.1 in the A1 V3 release retain the PL and PG settings?
	The customer was told that all the users setting were reset to default
	on the previous upgrade of WPS-PLUS?

6.	Will WPS-PLUS 4.1 run on a ALL-IN-1 V2.4 system?

7.	How many lines will the TDE have?

8.	If the file is formatted to postscript, will the postscript version
	be viewable on the terminal?

Thanks for any and all assistance.

Betty
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501.1I'll try 2 and 3AIMTEC::PORTER_TTerry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSCWed Apr 15 1992 22:5443
2.

Remote sharing (Distributed Sharing Option) will not be available at FCS, it
should be available 3 to 6 months later, at extra cost.

When it is installed (just an extra license) then for a user to access a 
remote drawer they will require a proxy on the VMS system that the drawer 
resides on, unless the drawer has been given world access in which case no
user specific proxy is required (it uses OAFC$DEFAULT which is automatically
set up on installation of V3.0).

Whatever access is granted locally to the proxy account determins the access
that will be granted to the remote user.

The remote user does not require a local ALL-IN-1 account.

You can cut down the overhead by giving access to groups of users (if that 
is suitable in your environment) and then you only need one proxy per group.

I don't understand the comment about some sites having VMS only? In order for
a drawer to exist on a system ALL-IN-1 must be installed on that system, and
in order to access a drawer from a system a client (such as ALL-IN-1 IOS on
VMS systems) must be installed.

3.

Multiple drawers will use more disk space than a single drawer containing the 
same documents, although not a lot more. A document will take up the same 
amount of disk space no matter what drawer it is in, however each drawer will
have an overhead so if you have 10 documents in 1 drawer you will require less
disk space than the same 10 documents in 10 drawers.

Where you could use up extra space is if a user refiles a mail message to 
another drawer the resulting document is a private document that is a copy
of the original. If a mail is sent to 9 local recipiants then there will be
1 copy referenced by 10 users (including the sender). If they all refile the
document to another drawer the original document in the mail area will be
deleted (no-one references it any more) and there will be 10 copies, each
one referenced by 1 user.

HTH

Terry
501.2Answers to 5, 6, 7 and 8IOSG::NEWLANDRichard Newland, IOSG, REO1-D/4AWed Apr 15 1992 23:5634
>5.	Will WPS-PLUS 4.1 in the A1 V3 release retain the PL and PG settings?
>	The customer was told that all the users setting were reset to default
>	on the previous upgrade of WPS-PLUS?

Yes.  The PL and PG settings which are stored in the WPS-PLUS document .WPL
file for each document are not reset.  I'm not aware that they were lost on
previous upgrades.  Which settings do you mean by 'users setting'? 

The only WPS-PLUS settings that will neeed to be reset are the abbreviation
and library documents, which are user settings and not document settings. 


>6.	Will WPS-PLUS 4.1 run on a ALL-IN-1 V2.4 system?

No, and there are no plans to provide this.


>7.	How many lines will the TDE have?

TDE pictures can be of any length.  The TDE editor allows you to edit a set
of lines 2 less than the number of lines on the terminal, e.g. 22 lines on 
a 24 line VT220, or 52 lines in a 54 line DECterm window.


>8.	If the file is formatted to postscript, will the postscript version
	be viewable on the terminal?

No, WPS-PLUS V4.1 does not have a pre-viewer, but I understand this is high 
on the list of possible enhancments in a possible future release, which is 
all I'm allowed to say in this conference.


Richard
501.3P&C GuideSAGE::SLATERMarc, 264-6309; Beyond this place there be dragons.Thu Apr 16 1992 03:247
And for question #1, please see note 142.* for information on sizing 
ALL-IN-1 IOS V3 systems.


Regards,

Marc
501.4Login mail check in V3.0?GANTRY::HULLDigital Services Delivery - MotownThu Apr 16 1992 13:4312
Another simple V3.0 question:

Does V3.0 offer the functionality of the CHECKMAIL ASSETS kit (VMS & A1
names do not match, but login mail check still works) as an out-of-the-box
feature?

Just wondering because I just convinced my customer to rename all their
user accounts from ibm-ish names like AH0228 to real human names.  Now
MAILCOUNT is useless.  I'm gonna install CHECKMAIL V2.2, but if its only a
short-term need until V3, that'll affect what we charge them.

	-Al
501.5IOSG::MAURICEIOSG ain't a place to raise a kidThu Apr 16 1992 14:339
    Without ever having run CHECKMAIL my understanding is that both will
    report the mail count for users where VMS and A1 names differ, but
    CHECKMAIL will report it for a given A1 name and V3 will report the
    count for all A1 users with the user's VMS name. If there is a one-to-one
    correspondence then there is no real difference.
    
    Cheers
    
    Stuart
501.6The missing oneAIMTEC::WICKS_AMore Ship dates than actual ShipsThu Apr 16 1992 21:155
    The missing answer to question 4 is I believe No.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
501.7@$@#$!Attendee length problemWAYLND::HOWARDBen. It should do what people expect it to doTue Apr 21 1992 16:349
    RE: .6
    
    Andrew, 
    
    In note 484, there is more discussion on this.  Are you saying that it
    is still a problem beyond what is discussed there.  We have a state
    government and university system that believes this could be a stopper.
    
    Ben
501.8dave Z is the guruAIMTEC::WICKS_AMore Ship dates than actual ShipsTue Apr 21 1992 16:5713
    Ben,
    
    How do I even go about expanding on the answer in .6??
    
    I can only suggest you try TM on BL123A as I believe it would not be
    too controversial to say that there are still some opportunites with
    long addressing in TM.
    
    Hopefully Dave Z will explain what he knows about this topic?
    
    Regards,
   
    Andrew.D.Wicks
501.9#4AIMTEC::ZANIEWSKI_DWhy would CSC specialists need training?Tue Apr 21 1992 18:286
        All of the length restrictions in TM have been lifted, as far as I
        know.  There are still some problems with addressing, mixed case
        addresses and reading replies.  There have been a few recent notes
        discussing these.
        
        Dave Zaniewski
501.10A knock off against usWAYLND::HOWARDBen. It should do what people expect it to doWed Apr 22 1992 16:2718
    Ok.  I believe that they schedule with Profs and Internet users.  The
    upper- and lower-case problems sound fixable from 484, but obviously
    are important with Internet.
    
    I did try it and it appeared to work ok.  The customer has a way of
    finding the one thing that is still broken.  Betty is going to ask for
    a more complete explanation of what they are looking to get fixed.
    
    The one advantage Profs has had over ALL-IN-1 is its ability to scan
    calendars and automatically schedule a meeting (sort of like ALL-IN-1
    V1).  By not fixing this bug earlier, we have lost a lot of credibility
    and probably a lot of sales.  Whenever a customer asks about that, I
    know that they have been primed by their IBM rep.  I guess we need to
    make these points clearer to product marketing so that fixes like this
    get made more quickly.  
    
    Thanks for the help so far. 
    Ben
501.11We can do that (again?) !SHALOT::LANPHEARTest the water or turn the tide?Wed Apr 22 1992 17:2219
    >  The one advantage Profs has had over ALL-IN-1 is its ability to scan
    >  calendars and automatically schedule a meeting (sort of like ALL-IN-1
    >  V1).
    
    Hi Ben,
    
      A team here in Charlotte created a customization to schedule a
    meeting based on the results of a free time scan, as part of a customer
    project last year.  It scans the list of users for a common first free
    time (based on a duration the user selects), and then prompts the user
    to schedule the meeting.  We didn't make it fully automatic, because
    some people might not like Monday from 12-1pm, or Friday from 3-5pm. 
    Additionally, the scan will select one from a list of resources which
    is available for the meeting.
    
      It may take some work to upgrade it to V3.0, but I'm sure we can work
    something out your customers need it.  Talk to Barb (SHALOT::) Peacock.
    
    					Cheers, Dan'l