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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

479.0. "Macs,keypak & ALL-IN-1 classic" by YOSMTE::MORRISON_HU () Tue Apr 14 1992 03:09

    My customer is doing proposal generation on Macs using Microsoft word.
    He wants to mail these word documents as binary attachments using the
    all-in-1 x.400 mail client on the mac. The vms server is routing this
    mail to classic all-in-1 where the binary attachments are to be
    converted to WPS+ format and edited/combined.
    
    Customer Imposed Rules:
    1. The vms user must never leave the classic all-in-1 menu to do the
    conversion (or anything else).
    2. Keypak converters must be used.
    3. The conversion process must be bi-directional (mac to WPS+ and WPS+
    to Mac)
    4. Files are to be moved between the mac and vax via mail (x.400 on mac or
    classic All-in-1 on vax)
    
    Questions:
    1. Is it possible to integrate the keypak converters into the classic
    all-in-1 menu?
    2. Is it possible for classic all-in-1 to inform a user when a binary
    attachment is received that is unreadable ?
    3. Is it possible for all-in-1 classic to auto-convert binary attached
    files to wps+ format ?
    4. Is is possible to have all-in-1 convert wps+ documents to mac
    microsoft word format and then attach them to an outgoing mail message?

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
479.1	Are these new products all-in-1 and All-in-1 ?	GIDDAY::SETHI	Man from Downunder	`Tue Apr 14 1992 06:44`	12
	G'day Hugh, I think that you are going to find it difficult getting support for all-in-1 or All-in-1. Because DEC have never marketed these products ! Is it a new product? But you never know your luck some ALL-IN-1 expert maybe able to help you out. Good luck. Sunil (PS it's all in the Trademark uppercase ALL-IN-1 please !!!)
479.2	A few answers	SCOTTC::MARSHALL	Pearl-white, but slightly shop-soiled	`Tue Apr 14 1992 10:09`	60
	>> 1. Is it possible to integrate the keypak converters into the classic >> all-in-1 menu? As ALL-IN-1 is wonderfully customisable, you can easily call any program from within ALL-IN-1, eg: GET OA$DCL = "COPY " #src_file #dst_file thus complying with Customer Imposed Rule #1. However, not knowing much about Keypak I can't suggest a specific solution, or even whether Keypak can do the conversions you require (although Customer Imposed Rule #2 implies it can). >> 2. Is it possible for classic all-in-1 to inform a user when a binary >> attachment is received that is unreadable ? It depends on what sort of "binary" it is. There are a number of "binary" formats that are recognised by ALL-IN-1: when the user reads such a message, instead of the message (or attachemnt) text they get the single line FOREIGN document type cannot be displayed (or words to that effect) There is also an "UNKNOWN" datatype, which is meant to be a catch-all, but again is only used by ALL-IN-1 for certain types. If you can tell me the NBS document type number that is put in the message, I can tell you what ALL-IN-1 will do with it. >> 3. Is it possible for all-in-1 classic to auto-convert binary attached >> files to wps+ format ? You may be able to do this with "Personal Assistant" (apologies for mis-spelling that if it's one of our hallowed trademarks), but I don't know whether it allows selection based on document type. Or you could write a script which scans a user's file cabinet for documents of a particualr type, and performs the convert operation as appropriate. Short of changing the mail delivery code, there isn't really any way you can have it happen totally automatically. >> 4. Is is possible to have all-in-1 convert wps+ documents to mac >> microsoft word format and then attach them to an outgoing mail message? Customise "Send" (or provide another option, eg SC, Send with Convert)) to a) Convert the document b) Forward it (ie giving the user the address entry form, and the option to add a cover note. Alternatively, the user could do this manually, by calling the convert operation from a new menu option, then forwarding the resulting document in the conventional way. >> 3. The conversion process must be bi-directional (mac to WPS+ and WPS+ >> to Mac) >> 4. Files are to be moved between the mac and vax via mail (x.400 on mac or >> classic All-in-1 on vax) To summarise, this is easy to do from ALL-IN-1's point of view, as long as a) You can get the document into a "binary" format understood (or at least accepted) by ALL-IN-1 b) The convertors actually exist to do the require conversions! Scott
479.3	KEYAPK+1 & ALL-IN-1 PC Server	FAILTE::LAAHS	Two Cute Celts are better than one	`Wed Apr 15 1992 14:20`	10
	There is a product called KEYPAK+1 which integrates keypay into ALL-IN-1 IOS. Furthermore the ALL-IN-1 PC Server for VMS product introduces entries into the FORMAT master which invokes automatic conversion when a user reads a 'foreign' file type. By default Keypak is the converter that is called. HTH, Kevin
479.4	Sure it can be done	A1VAX::BARTH	DEC's fallen and can't get up?	`Tue Apr 21 1992 20:14`	8
	Kevin's got the right stuff regarding .0. The V1.1 ALL-IN-1 PC Server for VMS, which is used with DESKtop for DOS & Mac, does indeed basically do all of the things the customer wants on the VMS side. Note that KEYpak doesn't convert from Word for Mac <-> WPS-PLUS. It only goes to DX. You'll have to rely on ALL-IN-1 to convert from DX <-> WPL. K.