| Title: | *OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference |
| Notice: | Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1 |
| Moderator: | IOSG::PYE |
| Created: | Thu Jan 30 1992 |
| Last Modified: | Tue Jan 23 1996 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 4343 |
| Total number of notes: | 18308 |
Hello all,
We are using VMS/Thai V5.5(base on V5.5), FMS/Thai V2.4, A1/Thai V2.4.
In A1/Thai V2.4, we intergrated ThaiEDT as a localized EDT editor.
Here is the problem, In WP or EM menu, we use Create to create the
document and invoke GOLD G to get the document, from here the menu
Get Document Menu
SP Scratch Pad
DOC File Cabinet Document
VMS VMS file
UDP UDP key Definition
NOTE Get a note,.....
Select either one of these would result to EXIT from A1 to the
DCL command line.
If the editor is WPSPLUS, it works fine, but failed with ThaiEDT.
Any thing related to this problem, VMS 5.5, FMS V2.4 ????
Any of your idea & suggestion would be highly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Linitda
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| 446.1 | <a bit more> | TLAENG::LINITDA | Linitda Sooksomstarn @TLA, ISE/Thailand | Thu Apr 09 1992 11:44 | 6 |
Even EDT, which comes with ALL-IN-1 V24 got the same problem on GOLD G
also.
Kindly give me some pointer, please...
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| 446.2 | Some questions | BUFFER::VICKERS | If it helps a customer, DO IT | Thu Apr 09 1992 20:07 | 17 |
Linitda,
I have never heard of such a problem and the lack of response so far
indicates that it may be fairly rare. It might help if you could
provide more details about what happens. Does the form appear asking
for the document, note, or whatever? Is there an exit message given
like access violation or the like?
It might be helpful to obtain a trace of the actions taken by ALL-IN-1
to get an idea of exactly where the failure occurs.
Is there any chance that there is a customization which could be
affecting this? It seems rather doubtful, of course. Does using the
/NOCUSTOM qualifier fix the problem, for instance?
Hang in there,
don
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| 446.3 | more details | TLAENG::LINITDA | Linitda Sooksomstarn @TLA, ISE/Thailand | Fri Apr 10 1992 06:28 | 198 |
Don,
>Does the form appear asking for the document, note, or whatever?
Yes, it does. When I invoked Gold G and the form appeared, I invoked
VMS and the following form displayed..
Include a VMS File
VMS file name: [linitda]test.txt
Right after I press <enter>, it just simply exit from A1 , don't even
have any access violation or the like....
>Does using the /NOCUSTOM qualifier fix the problem, for instance?
No, it doesn't.
The following is the a1trace.log that I invoked Gold % to trace what
happended, it seems that something related to editor buffer. BTW, I used EDT as
an editor.
Any advice would be welcome. Many thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Linitda
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! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$SCP_DISPATCH .IF $TRA_MESS == "1" THEN OA$TRA_SET MESS
43 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$TRA_SET MESS
44 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$SCP_DISPATCH .IF SYMBOL == "1" THEN OA$TRA_SET SYMBOL
45 ! OA$FLD_RTN: return field-contents
46 ! OA$FMS_RTN: Returned "1" from field "SYMBOL" (15) on page 1
49 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$TRA_SET SYMBOL
50 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$SCP_DISPATCH .IF IO == "1" THEN OA$TRA_SET IO
51 ! OA$FLD_RTN: return field-contents
53 ! OA$FMS_RTN: Returned "1" from field "IO" (16) on page 1
54 ! GET Symbol: IO
54 ! Value: 1
55 ! GET Symbol: "1"
56 ! Value: 1
57 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$TRA_SET IO
58 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$SCP_DISPATCH .IF TERM == "1" THEN OA$TRA_SET TERM
59 ! OA$FLD_RTN: return field-contents
61 ! OA$FMS_RTN: Returned "0" from field "TERM" (17) on page 1
62 ! GET Symbol: TERM
62 ! Value: 0
63 ! GET Symbol: "1"
64 ! Value: 1
65 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$SCP_DISPATCH .IF ALL == "1" THEN OA$TRA_SET ALL
66 ! OA$FLD_RTN: return field-contents
68 ! OA$FMS_RTN: Returned "1" from field "ALL" (13) on page 1
69 ! GET Symbol: ALL
69 ! Value: 1
70 ! GET Symbol: "1"
71 ! Value: 1
72 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$TRA_SET ALL
73 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$SCP_DISPATCH .IF SCRIPT == "1" THEN OA$TRA_SET SCRIPT
74 ! OA$FLD_RTN: return field-contents
75 ! OA$FMS_RTN: Returned "1" from field "SCRIPT" (3) on page 1
76 ! GET Symbol: SCRIPT
77 ! Value: 1
78 ! GET Symbol: "1"
78 ! Value: 1
80 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$TRA_SET SCRIPT
81 ! OA$FRM_DISPATCH: End Dispatch TRACEARG
81 !
82 ! ----------- CURRENT FORM INFORMATION ------------
82 ! CURRENT FIELD INDEX = 3
83 ! FORM DSAB WORKSPACE PRIOR_DSAB
84 ! TRACEARG 002E7D88 0006510E 002E75E0
84 ! OA$EDIT 002E75E0 000650B4 002E67A8
85 ! EMC 002E67A8 0006503C 00000000
86 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: CLOSE_PRIOR
87 ! OA$FRM_CLOSE: Closing TRACEARG
87 ! OA$FLO_ALL_NDISP: Undisplay all workspaces
98 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: FORM EDTGMEN
99 ! OA$FRM_DISPATCH: Dispatching EDTGMEN
100 !
100 ! ----------- CURRENT FORM INFORMATION ------------
101 ! CURRENT FIELD INDEX = 0
101 ! FORM DSAB WORKSPACE PRIOR_DSAB
102 ! OA$EDIT 002E75E0 000650B4 002E67A8
103 ! EMC 002E67A8 0006503C 00000000
105 ! OA$FRM_OPEN: Starting EDTGMEN
106 ! OA$FMS_OPEN: Opening form "EDTGMEN" (002E74C8)
106 ! OA$FLO_OPEN_FORM: Opening form - EDTGMEN
107 ! in SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]OAFORM.FLB;
129 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$FORM_MENU
130 ! OA$FLD_PUT: 0
131 ! OA$FLD_PRE_PROCESS: -- 00065078
132 ! OA$FLD_GET_FIELD-- 0
133 ! OA$FMS_GET: Getting user input from field "CHOICE" (0) on page 1
135 ! OA$FLO_DISPW: Displaying OA$EDIT (000650B4)
136 ! OA$FLO_DISPW: Displaying EDTGMEN (00065078)
vms{CR}
151 ! OA$FMS_GET_KEYPAD: Key value {CR} "CHOICE" (0) on page 1
152 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$FLD_DONE
152 ! OA$FLD_DONE: 0
153 ! OA$FLD_POST_PROCESS: -- 00065078
153 ! OA$FLD_RTN: return field-contents
155 ! OA$FMS_RTN: Returned "vms " from field "CHOICE" (0) on page 1
157 ! OA$FLD_PUT: 0
159 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: CHECK_DISKQUOTA
162 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$SCP_DISPATCH .IF OA$STATUS == "1" THEN FORM EDTGETVMS\IFEXIT\COPY #VMSFILE "EDITOR_BUFFER"
163 ! [SCP/TRACE] .IF OA$STATUS == "1" THEN FORM EDTGETVMS\IFEXIT\COPY #VMSFILE "EDITOR_BUFFER" << Form= EDTGMEN
164 ! GET Symbol: OA$STATUS
165 ! Value: 1
166 ! GET Symbol: "1"
166 ! Value: 1
168 ! [SCP/TRACE] FORM EDTGETVMS\IFEXIT\COPY #VMSFILE "EDITOR_BUFFER" << Form= EDTGMEN
169 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: FORM EDTGETVMS
169 ! OA$FRM_DISPATCH: Dispatching EDTGETVMS
170 !
170 ! ----------- CURRENT FORM INFORMATION ------------
171 ! CURRENT FIELD INDEX = 0
171 ! FORM DSAB WORKSPACE PRIOR_DSAB
172 ! EDTGMEN 002E74C8 00065078 002E75E0
173 ! OA$EDIT 002E75E0 000650B4 002E67A8
174 ! EMC 002E67A8 0006503C 00000000
174 ! OA$FRM_OPEN: Starting EDTGETVMS
175 ! OA$FMS_OPEN: Opening form "EDTGETVMS" (002E7928)
176 ! OA$FLO_OPEN_FORM: Opening form - EDTGETVMS
176 ! in SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ALLIN1.LIB_ENGLISH]OAFORM.FLB;
184 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$FORM_ARG
185 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: GET OA$DISPLAY=OA$_EDTGETVMS_ENT_FILE_ED
187 ! GET Symbol: OA$DISPLAY=OA$_EDTGETVMS_ENT_FILE_ED
188 ! Value: Enter filename or press EXIT for editor
189 ! OA$FLD_PRE_PROCESS: -- 00065096
190 ! GET Symbol: #VMSFILE
190 ! Value:
191 ! OA$FLD_GET_FIELD-- 0
191 ! OA$FMS_GET: Getting user input from field "VMSFILE" (0) on page 1
193 ! OA$FLO_NDISP: Undisplaying OA$EDIT (000650B4)
195 ! OA$FLO_NDISP: Undisplaying EDTGMEN (00065078)
195 ! OA$FLO_DISPW: Displaying EDTGETVMS (00065096)
! Enter filename or press EXIT for editor
[ALLIN1.SOURCES]A1LINK.COM{CR}
204 ! OA$FMS_GET_KEYPAD: Key value {CR} "VMSFILE" (0) on page 1
205 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: OA$FLD_DONE
205 ! OA$FLD_DONE: 0
207 ! OA$FMS_RTN: Returned "[ALLIN1.SOURCES]A1LINK.COM " from field "VMSFILE" (0) on page 1
208 ! GET Symbol: OA$DIR_PARSE:"OAUSER:*.*"
209 ! Value:
216 ! OA$FLD_POST_PROCESS: -- 00065096
216 ! OA$FLD_RTN: return field-contents
218 ! OA$FMS_RTN: Returned "[ALLIN1.SOURCES]A1LINK.COM " from field "VMSFILE" (0) on page 1
219 ! OA$FRM_DISPATCH: End Dispatch EDTGETVMS
219 !
220 ! ----------- CURRENT FORM INFORMATION ------------
220 ! CURRENT FIELD INDEX = 0
221 ! FORM DSAB WORKSPACE PRIOR_DSAB
222 ! EDTGETVMS 002E7928 00065096 002E74C8
222 ! EDTGMEN 002E74C8 00065078 002E75E0
223 ! OA$EDIT 002E75E0 000650B4 002E67A8
224 ! EMC 002E67A8 0006503C 00000000
225 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: IFEXIT
226 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: COPY #VMSFILE "EDITOR_BUFFER"
227 ! GET Symbol: #VMSFILE
227 ! Value: [ALLIN1.SOURCES]A1LINK.COM
228 ! GET Symbol: "EDITOR_BUFFER"
228 ! Value: EDITOR_BUFFER
242 ! Text DSAB Name: TXT$LIST Requests : OPEN
244 ! Text DSAB Name: TXT$LIST Requests : GET_NEXT
245 ! Text DSAB Name: TXT$LIST Requests : GET_NEXT
248 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000001C, PC=0058DE55, PSL=03C00004
250 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000001C, PC=0058DE55, PSL=03C00004
252 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000001C, PC=0058DE55, PSL=03C00004
254 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000001C, PC=0058DE55, PSL=03C00004
256 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000001C, PC=0058DE55, PSL=03C00004
257 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, %OA-W-EDTFAILURE, Error detected from editor
259 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, -SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000001C, PC=0058DE55, PSL=03C00004
260 ! OA$FRM_CLOSE: Closing EDTGETVMS
261 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, %OA-W-EDTFAILURE, Error detected from editor
263 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, -SYSTEM-W-EXQUOTA, exceeded quota
263 ! OA$FRM_DISPATCH: End Dispatch OA$EDIT EDIT "[.MSG]ZUBZFI4LI.TXT ","",,"EDT"/MODE=UPDATE
266 !
266 ! ----------- CURRENT FORM INFORMATION ------------
267 ! CURRENT FIELD INDEX = 0
267 ! FORM DSAB WORKSPACE PRIOR_DSAB
268 ! EDTGMEN 002E74C8 00065078 002E75E0
268 ! OA$EDIT 002E75E0 000650B4 002E67A8
269 ! EMC 002E67A8 0006503C 00000000
270 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: GET OA$FUNCTION="SET_MENU " #PREV_DEFAULT
271 ! %OA-I-LOGFUN, Function: SET_MENU DEFAULT
272 ! GET Symbol: OA$FUNCTION="SET_MENU " #PREV_DEFAULT
273 ! Value: SET_MENU DEFAULT
274 ! GET Symbol: #PREV_DEFAULT=""
274 ! Value:
279 ! OA$FRM_CLOSE: Closing EDTGMEN
279 ! OA$FRM_CLOSE: Closing EDTGMEN
280 ! OA$FRM_DISPATCH: End Dispatch MAIN
281 !
282 ! ----------- CURRENT FORM INFORMATION ------------
282 ! CURRENT FIELD INDEX = 0
283 ! FORM DSAB WORKSPACE PRIOR_DSAB
283 ! OA$EDIT 002E75E0 000650B4 002E67A8
284 ! EMC 002E67A8 0006503C 00000000
288 ! OA$FLO_ALL_NDISP: Undisplay all workspaces
293 ! %OA-I-LOGSTOP, Ending ALL-IN-1
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| 446.4 | Quota problems | UTRTSC::BOSMAN | We're just sugar mice in the rain | Fri Apr 10 1992 08:35 | 14 |
Hi,,
261 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, %OA-W-EDTFAILURE, Error detected from editor
263 ! %OA-I-LOGERROR, -SYSTEM-W-EXQUOTA, exceeded quota
263 ! OA$FRM_DISPATCH: End Dispatch OA$EDIT EDIT "[.MSG]ZUBZFI4LI.TXT ","",,"EDT"/MODE=UPDATE
These lines indicate that there is a lack of quota. Which one? I don't
know. But check the users UAF-paramters. One of them maybe to low. On
the other hand, problems can arise when the SYSGEN parameter MAXBUF is
too low.
If you can't find out, please post an example of an UAF record.
Sjaak.
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| 446.5 | A couple of 'popular' quotas | BUFFER::VICKERS | If it helps a customer, DO IT | Fri Apr 10 1992 16:46 | 6 |
The FILLM or BYTLM quotas are usually the ones that affect this sort of
operation. I believe that the minimum suggested values are 100 and
36000, respectively.
Have fun,
don
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| 446.6 | a word from the ALL-IN-1 V2 DPE (EDT/WPS) editor integrator | SKNNER::SKINNER | I'm doing my EARS | Fri Apr 10 1992 16:48 | 17 |
The editor interface logic does not "supress" fatal errors that are signalled, such as your ACCVIO or your quota problem. When they occur the ALL-IN-1 main image will do image rundown and drop you out of ALL-IN-1. You may want to check your version of EDT for how it calls the get_text routine. There is an "unprotected" call and a "protected" one. You might want to choose the protected call and recode your editor. Something DID go wrong during the reading of your input file [ALLIN1.SOURCES]A1LINK.COM, or you wouldn't have gotten the ACCVIOs. Maybe the quota problem helped out, but you might want to determine (through the debugger if necessary) if the ACCVIO happens in the get text routine or in the editor's IO processing routine, and report a bug if you find the text routine at "fault". Somebody's code (whatever is linked at PC=0058DE55) tried to read location 1C, and that caused the ACCVIOs. 1C looks more like a length or an offset than an address, but that's what the code developer would have to figure out if you end up looking that deeply. /Marty | |||||
| 446.7 | problem still exist | TLAENG::LINITDA | Linitda Sooksomstarn @TLA, ISE/Thailand | Wed Apr 15 1992 07:00 | 15 |
Hello
I've checked SYSGEN parameter MAXBUF which is 5000, FILLM is 100 and
BYTLM is 600000. Those seems to be okay!
>There is an "unprotected" call and a "protected" one. You might want to
>choose the protected call and recode your editor
Marty, please help enlightened more on this. Many thanks.
Anyone that has VMS V55 & A1/V24 installed, please confirm me that
you have no problem with GOLD G in EDT editor.. Thank you very much.
Thank you & Rgds,
Linitda
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| 446.8 | Confirmation | UTRTSC::BOSMAN | We're just sugar mice in the rain | Wed Apr 15 1992 08:12 | 14 |
Hi,
I don't have problems (VMS V5.5 - ALL-IN-1 V2.4) with GOLD G in the EDT
editor. These are the SYSUAF settings of my account:
Maxjobs: 0 Fillm: 150 Bytlm: 100000
Maxacctjobs: 0 Shrfillm: 0 Pbytlm: 0
Maxdetach: 0 BIOlm: 150 JTquota: 2048
Prclm: 100 DIOlm: 150 WSdef: 600
Prio: 4 ASTlm: 150 WSquo: 4096
Queprio: 0 TQElm: 80 WSextent: 8192
CPU: (none) Enqlm: 700 Pgflquo: 30000
HTH, Sjaak.
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| 446.9 | One crude way to trace quota usage | BUFFER::VICKERS | If it helps a customer, DO IT | Wed Apr 15 1992 15:12 | 9 |
Chasing quota problems can be a real pain. One technique that can help
is to use ANAL/SYS to examine the process in question as the event
transpires.
Use the SET PROC/INDEX for the process in SHOW SUMMARY list and then
keep doing SHOW PROCESS to observe the effects.
Good luck,
don
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| 446.10 | MONQ is available for Digital internal use only | SKNNER::SKINNER | I'm doing my EARS | Wed Apr 15 1992 16:55 | 8 |
In addition to Don's reply about using ANALYZE/SYSTEM, there is a tool called MONQ available from the TOOLSHED NOTES conference (METOO::SW_TOOLS_CATALOG), note 1361. MONQ is used to "Monitor Process Quotas & Limits", and can be run against any process on your system. Much easier to use than ANALYZE/SYSTEM. Just extract note 1361.1 to a file and invoke it to have MONQ copied to your system. /Marty | |||||
| 446.11 | Localized problem. | TLAENG::LINITDA | Linitda Sooksomstarn @TLA, ISE/Thailand | Fri Apr 17 1992 03:45 | 7 |
MONQ is great!, we've monitored the qutoas and couldn't see any problem on that. I will closely look into the source code and it might be there. Thank you very much for your kindly help, I'm greatly appreciated. Best regards, Linitda | |||||