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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

419.0. "General V3.0 questions" by USRDC5::LIDEN () Mon Apr 06 1992 20:50

    Here are some more general V3.0 questions from yet another ALL-IN-1
    V3.0 Technical Update course.
    
    
    1.  Let's say User1 owns a document which they give priv's to User2. 
    User2 reserves the document.  Then User1 takes User2's priv's away. 
    How can User1 regain control of the document?
    
    2.  How is partition name handled in a Homogenous type cluster.  They
    are not using an alias.
    
    3. From MD (manage drawers), what does the REM option perform?
    
    4. Is the space required for moving accounts any better in V3.0.  And
    if so, what kind of numbers can you provide me?
    
    Again, THANKS in advance!!!
    
    Kevin
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419.1Just a couple more!DDMAIL::LIDENMon Apr 06 1992 21:2715
    Another question just came up.
    
    1.  When setting the breakpoints for the Mail Directory search.  There
    is the two system wide breakpoints SYS$EMDESCAL1 & 2, the question is,
    shouldn't I be able to see them with, $ SH SYM SYS$EMDESCAL1 & 2?  And
    secondly, for a user to set $EMDESCAL1 & 2, wouldn't they require CMD
    priv to do so?
    
    2. How about just one more quick one!  What would the output look like
    from a MDS and why would some one want to do one?  (Mail directory
    sort).
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Kevin
419.2V3.0 Transfer User uses � the space of V2.4IOSG::TALLETTJust one more fix, then we can ship...Mon Apr 06 1992 22:2719
    
    	RE: .0 (4)
    
>    4. Is the space required for moving accounts any better in V3.0.  And
>    if so, what kind of numbers can you provide me?
    
    	I take it this is talking about Transfer User. Well for a large
    	account (if it is large, then the overhead will be negligible)
    	V3.0 takes half the disk space of V2.4 transfers. This is because
    	on V2.4, after everything was prepared, PAT packed up all the
    	savesets into USERNAME.BCK, which MAS had to restore. This step
    	was eliminated, which saves half your disk space for the transfer.
    
    	Whilst we're here, you can PAT an account more than once on V3.0 as PAT
    	no longer munges the account during preparation. The best feature
    	of all in my opinion.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
419.3Until the DDS developer stops by...AIMTEC::WICKS_AVote Bill'n'Opus for a weirder USAMon Apr 06 1992 22:3623
    and i'll take the additonal questions 1) and 2) ...
    
    1) no since they're in the SYSTEM.PST in OA$DATA not in wherever VMS
       symbols live. and yes you do need < (CMD) priv to see them.
    
    2) A sorted directory search looks exactly like an unsorted one
       except that yes you've guessed it they're sorted
       so instead of:
    
       WICKS 	ANDREW		the rest of the stuff
       MOUSE    MICKEY 		the rest of the stuff
      
       you see:
    
       MOUSE    MICKEY
       WICKS    ANDREW
    
       Actually it's not new to v3.0 as such since BIND/SORT was there but
       undocumented in v2.4.
    
    regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
419.4partition == nodeA == nodeBCHRLIE::HUSTONMon Apr 06 1992 22:4013
    
    re .0
    
    >2.  How is partition name handled in a Homogenous type cluster.  They
    >are not using an alias.
    
    Not sure what you are asking here. A partition name is named by any 
    node in the cluster, cluster alias does not matter. the partition on
    the cluster is named by any of the nodes in teh cluster, all are
    synonyms for the same partition.
    
    
    
419.5Is 3 days still enough? :>)GLOVES::ALLERTONSteve Allerton 343-0205Mon Apr 06 1992 23:3531
    
    Kevin,
    
    I'll try to answer the other two:
    
        ^^
        1.  Let's say User1 owns a document which they give priv's to User2.
        User2 reserves the document.  Then User1 takes User2's priv's away.
        How can User1 regain control of the document?
    
        ^^
        Whichever user has Control Access to the Document should be able to 
        Unreserve it (FC URV).  If USER1 owns the document, he would have 
        Control access to it.
    
        ^^
        3. From MD (manage drawers), what does the REM option perform?
    
        ^^
    
        REM "removes the drawer from partition", meaning that the record 
        for the drawer in OA$DATA:PARTITION.DAT gets deleted.  The drawer's 
        physical directory structure  is left intact.  As such, it can be moved
        (copied) to another device, then re-added to the PARTITION file
        using the ADD option on the Partition Management menu. The 
        reason (I think) for doing this is in the case when you as the Manager, 
        create a drawer for one or more users as an "autonomous" drawer, then 
        decide you want to change it's physical location.
    
        Steve