| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 339.1 | Consider VMS A5.5 | AIMTEC::PORTER_T | Terry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSC | Thu Mar 26 1992 23:21 | 8 |
| If you upgrade to full VMS V5.5 then you have to convert the queues,
otherwise they won't work.
There is a version called VMS A5.5 that is V5.5 but with the V5.4
job controller. This should not have the printing problems that V5.5 has
exibited with ALL-IN-1 and other layered products.
Terry
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| 339.2 | My vote: go for it! | IOSG::MARCHANT | Only parrots succeed | Thu Mar 26 1992 23:35 | 14 |
| Are the CSC only worried about the queues? If so, your customer could
always upgrade to A5.5 (which is V5.5 without the new queue manager.)
How big is their VMS system? There are various problems with V5.5 on
*large* clusters, regardless of ALL-IN-1. In fact VMS are rolling up
a whole load of patches to form the V5.5-1 release (and the current
field test version of V5.5-1 will become V5.5-2.)
Personally, I'd go for the V5.5 upgrade. If problems with the queues
occur after the upgrade, the customer can always disable background
formatting.
Cheers,
Paul.
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| 339.3 | Do we have a patch for ALL-IN-1 ? | COPCLU::COPRUG::RUNE | Rune Gottschalk @DMO | Tue Mar 31 1992 15:18 | 10 |
| Hmmmmmm . . .
They didn't upgrade because of our "misleading" feedback concerning the
ALL-IN-1 patches.
Do we have a patch that solves the queue problems ?
In Stars I have read that you need ALL-IN-1 V2.4-1 . . .
Rune
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| 339.4 | No ALL-IN-1 patch | AIMTEC::PORTER_T | Terry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSC | Tue Mar 31 1992 17:46 | 11 |
| There is no ALL-IN-1 patch that addresses any VMS V5.5 problems. It seems that
these problems will be fixed in VMS V5.5-1 and an ALL-IN-1 patch will probably
not be required.
I have not tested any of this so the truth may be a slight variation on the
above, but VMS V5.5-1 should fix most if not all of the problems.
It is currently planned to be available sometime in April, but I do not know
the exact date (or even if an exact date has been set yet).
Terry
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| 339.5 | How could they even mention a patch . . . | COPCLU::COPRUG::RUNE | Rune Gottschalk @DMO | Tue Mar 31 1992 18:06 | 6 |
| Hi Terry,
Thanks for the more detailed desciption. How could they even mention a
patch ???? :^)
Rune
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| 339.6 | VMS V5.5-1 does not fix the problem :-( | AIMTEC::PORTER_T | Terry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSC | Tue Mar 31 1992 22:50 | 13 |
| I have just found out that VMS V5.5-1 does not fix all the problems. The VMS
problems will not be fully fixed until VMS V5.5-2. I have no idea of the
schedule.
Based on this news, I would now recommend waiting for V5.5-2, or if you HAVE to
got to V5.5 then go to A5.5. Upgrading to VMS A5.5 on a non-cluster system
is a little tricky, but you can probably find out how to do it from the VMS
notes conference (VAXWRK::VMSNOTES - KP7 to add it).
Terry
P.S. This is the first time I have done the KP7 thingy, so if it don't work
I probably messed it up ;^}
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| 339.7 | | UTRTSC::SCHOLLAERT | Half Dutch - Half Belgium | Wed Apr 01 1992 08:24 | 114 |
| THIS STARS ARTICLE IS NOT CUSTOMER READABLE
How To Answer Customer Question 'Should I Upgrade to VMS V5.5?'
******************** CAUTION: FOR INTERNAL USE ONLY *********************
* *
* THIS INFORMATION IS FOR USE BY DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORP. AND ITS *
* EMPLOYEES ONLY. PLEASE USE EXTREME CARE IF YOU MUST DISCUSS ANY *
* PART OF THIS INFORMATION WITH ANYONE WHO IS NOT A DIGITAL EMPLOYEE. *
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******************************************************************************
COMPONENT: Upgrade OP/SYS: VMS
LAST TECHNICAL REVIEW: 20-MAR-1992
SOURCE: Customer Support Center / USA
VERSION INFORMATION:
Information Applies to: VMS, Version 5.5
QUESTION:
Should I upgrade to VMS, Version 5.5?
ANSWER:
The two biggest issues reported with VMS Version 5.5 are:
1. Problems with the Distributed Lock Manager
2. Job controller problems with ALL-IN-1 and third
party symbionts, e.g, INTERLEAF, GRAYMATTER. These
problems are not totally understood at this point.
VMS Product Management plans to announce VMS, Version Version 5.5-1
to customers by the end of March will customer shipments beginning
in late April. This release will contain fixes to the Distributed Lock
Manager (see below for details) as well as fixes for other problems
that may cause crashes or data corruption.
As of March 20, we do not know exactly what will be included in VMS,
Version 5.5-1. It appears that the fixes to the Job Controller will
*not* be included. When we have more details on the contents of this
release, we will update this article.
Distributed Lock Manager
------------------------
The US CSC has a patch, CSCPAT_1011 which corrects several problems
related to the Distributed Lock Manager. Europe and GIA will need to
obtain these patches from the SPE VOID patch distribution system.
Please reference the following articles which are all contained in the
V5_VMS database:
CSCPAT_1011 Patch Information [INTERNAL USE ONLY]
V5.5 - LOCKMGRERR Bugcheck At Offset CLUSTRLOA+8DF8
LOCKMGRERR And CNXMGRERR Bugchecks Occur After Upgrade To VMS V5.5
Job Controller
--------------
The patch(es) to fix the job controller issues are not yet available
from Engineering. When they are, the US Customer Support Center
will be notified immediately. We will make the patch(es) available
through the CSCPAT Utility.
Guidelines
----------
Here are some guidelines to help determine if a customer should
upgrade to VMS Version 5.5 at this time:
o Most of the issues have been reported on very large clusters.
There do not appear to be any major issues with stand-alone
systems. Therefore, if the customer has a stand-alone system,
we expect no major issues with the upgrade.
o Customers with systems which make major use of the job
controller (have a lot of print/batch queues), but would like to
upgrade to VMS V5.5, should answer NO to the question in Phase 6
that asks:
Do you wish to upgrade to the new JOB_CONTROL at this time? [NO]
This leaves the system at VMS Version A5.5.
o If a decision is made to upgrade to V5.5, and the site concerned
is a large clustered site, or the site runs ALL-IN-1 or a 3rd party
symbiont, then you should get the customer the following patches:
PATCH # Fixes what issues
---------------------------------
CSCPAT-1011 DISTRIBUTED LOCK MANAGER ISSUES
CSCPAT-1012 JOB CONTROLLER ISSUES (this patch is *not* yet
available!!!)
o If a decision is made to upgrade to V5.5, the upgrade/installation
procedures and the batch/print documentation supplied with VMS
Version 5.5 should be reviewed very carefully. Directions should
be followed explicitly throughout the upgrade process.
o Review various STARS articles in the VMSBUG, V5_VMS, VMSDP, VIA,
and COMM databases using the search string "5.5" to ensure that
the customer is aware of other possible issues that have been
reported with this release.
Customers have access to any articles that are marked
CUSTOMER-READABLE and READY via DSIN or DSNlink ITS if they
have a valid VMS contract.
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| 339.8 | Anything more to do than disabling b/g formatting? | NZOMIS::THAZHATHE | | Mon Apr 13 1992 00:58 | 8 |
| For an ALL-IN-1 programmers benifit, can somebody explain what
specific ALL-IN-1 functions are affected? For example SEND_JBC,
A1SUBMIT etc.
The actual components (scripts, forms) may be too many to specify.
Is it safe to say (339.2) that disable background formatting is the
only thing needed? SEND_JBC is used in other places as well.
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| 339.9 | None | IOSG::NEWLAND | Richard Newland, IOSG, REO1-D/4A | Mon Apr 13 1992 11:35 | 6 |
| No ALL-IN-1 functions are directly affected. Functions such as SEND_JBC
are used to create jobs. The problems discussed in this topic occur after
the job controller decides to process a job.
Richard
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| 339.10 | Check Wordperfect also! | EEMELI::SALMINEN | Hannu Salminen, PTG -Finland | Wed Apr 29 1992 16:23 | 5 |
| Good to check out whether the customer runs Wordperfect.
It's symbiot doesn't sofar work with VMS 5.5 either.
Regards, Hannu
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