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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

295.0. "scheduling events over network?" by MAIL::SHAHNAM (Mehran Shahnam @STO) Sun Mar 22 1992 21:14

Hi folks,

Having looked at previous topics and conferences, I realize that we can not do
Set Owner and Two Calendar over the network, but can Scan calendar.  My
question is though, can I schedule an event over the network after I scan for
free time or not?  I've been unable to do this in the office ( I get a
recipient is unknown message), however I can scan the same unknown recipient's
calendar!!!

Any help is much appreciated
    
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295.1They can work, if the address is validAIMTEC::ZANIEWSKI_DWhy would CSC specialists need training?Sun Mar 22 1992 22:169
        Yes, you can schedule after scanning.  An unknown recipient
        message indicates that the mail address you used, does not reach
        the ALL-IN-1 account.  Address formats that work for scan, are not
        necessarily valid mail addresses.
        
        If you provide the address you scanned with, that might give a
        clue.
        
        Dave Zaniewski
295.2address format as requestedMAIL::SHAHNAMMehran Shahnam @STOTue Mar 24 1992 05:3269
    Dave, 
    
    The following is the message I got back after trying to schedule an
    event, with an account on our demo machine.  The account is a valid
    ALL-IN-1 account.  I scan using this format SHAHNAM@A1@UMROLA (with
    umrola being the node name and shahnam being the account name), and
    schedule with the same address format.  Here's the error message:
    
    
    Thanks in advance for any help
    Mehran
    -----------------------------------------------------------------


                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     23-Mar-1992 11:08pm CDT
                                        From:     
                                                  POSTMASTER
                                        Dept:      
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Subject: Message Delivery Report                                     

RE  Message ID: 15405042302991/1485814@MAIL
Generated by node: MDVAX1


Attempted delivery to:

    Route                 : @UMROLA		<--
    Route                 : @A1
    Userid                : SHAHNAM
    Arrival date          : 24-MAR-1992 05:04

This delivery failed. Failure reason was "unable to transfer".
Diagnostic was "unrecognised recipient name".


 


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                                        Date:     23-Mar-1992 10:59pm CDT
                                        From:     Mehran Shahnam @STO
                                                  SHAHNAM.MEHRAN AT A1 at MAIL at STO
                                        Dept:     Software
                                        Tel No:   (314) 991-6398

TO:  REMOTE ADDRESSEE                     ( SHAHNAM@A1@UMROLA )


Subject: Event -> 24-Mar-1992 09:00am SHAHNAM.MEHRAN                 


You are invited to the following meeting:

  Scheduled by : SHAHNAM.MEHRAN                
  Purpose      : testing                                                     
  On           : 24-Mar-1992
  From         : 09:00am     To : 11:00am
  At           :                               



    
295.3same error for regular mail?SHALOT::THORNTONNOT just another Al BundyTue Mar 24 1992 13:103
Does sending plain ALL-IN-1 mail with the same address syntax also yield the
same error? If so, then the problem is in how mail is set up and not w/ TM.

295.4Routing problemAIMTEC::ZANIEWSKI_DWhy would CSC specialists need training?Tue Mar 24 1992 13:144
        That's my guess too.  Node MDVAX1 is telling you that it doesn't
        know how to route to node UMROLA.
        
        Dave Zaniewski
295.5But is the syntax ok?MAIL::SHAHNAMMehran Shahnam @STOTue Mar 24 1992 21:2811
    So if there wasn't a routing problem the same syntax should have
    allowed me to schedule a meeting after scanning or do I need to use a
    different format?  I need to convey this to a customer and as long as I
    can tell them this will work, it's ok.  But that aside, what do you
    think is my problem here.  You're right, I can't send mail to UMROLA
    from MDVAX1.  Is it not set up properly on UMROLA or MDVAX1?  Any
    thoughts?
    
    
    Rgds
    Mehran
295.6network.dat instead of profile.dat?MAIL::SHAHNAMMehran Shahnam @STOTue Mar 24 1992 23:328
    Folks,
    
    On a related subject, the same customer is asking if it's possible to
    hook the calendar into network.dat rather than profile.dat file. Is
    this possible?
    
    Thanx
    Mehran
295.7Sensible at customers....LARVAE::JORDANChris Jordan, Digital Services - Office Consultant, LondonWed Mar 25 1992 14:1919
    If you are talking to customers - then you are probably OK.
    
    Internally we have funny MTS and area routers and addressing @STO etc
    etc. This confuses the time management area. Alternatively the address
    of USER @ A1 @ NODE confuses MTS for mail!!
    
    With customers and a properly used Network Profile - i.e. populated
    with addressees from the network - then TM SCAN and TM SCHEDULING
    should both work with the same address.
    
    When the customer enters an address in TM (scheduling and scanning), 
    then both PROFILE and NETWORK are scanned....
    
    
    If he wants to hook two calendar etc into Network - that is not as easy
    (ALL-IN-1 has been around for 10 years and very few (if any) people
    have done it!!). 
    
    Cheers, Chris
295.8Not working at customer siteMAIL::SHAHNAMMehran Shahnam @STOWed Apr 29 1992 23:4022
    Well folks, I'm back.
    
    It turns out that I can at least scan at the office and not schedule
    easily, but the customer can't even scan.  They keep getting "network
    not available" message back.  They are using Network.dat for user
    lookups and the TO: and CC: fields and do have DDS also populated but
    not using it. oa$dds_prime = 0, message router is V3.1b, ALL-IN-1 V2.4,
    and VMS v5.4-2.  We tried the following methods with the same results
    as mentioned above:
    smith.john
    smith.john@a1@node
    
    The two systems were remote ALL-IN-1 systems.  I really could use some
    help figuring this out, because it's become a very important issue. 
    It's a Telecom. account and already we're fighting to keep the VMS and
    ALL-IN-1 in there (they want all Unix), and some "big shot" has said
    that if DEC can do this (remote scheduling) it's a big plus for them. 
    So please can you give some suggestions?  Are there any log files we
    can dig into to understand better what's going on?
           
    As always, thanks for all the help.
    /Mehran
295.9TM_SERVER ?IOSG::SHOVEDave Shove -- REO-D/3CThu Apr 30 1992 12:077
    Is the Time Manager Server running (process TM_SERVER) on the remote
    node?
    
    Any failure to connect to the remote server will give the "Network not
    available" message when you do a Scan.
    
    Dave.
295.10patchesAIMTEC::ZANIEWSKI_DWhy would CSC specialists need training?Thu Apr 30 1992 14:307
        Scanning a username with a full stop (.) requires the v2.4 system
        be patched through K603.  A brief test shows that my local MTS
        system in ALF is not.  My system is patched to K603.
        
        I'm sorry I didn't see this earlier.
        
        Dave Zaniewski
295.11How to check for the patch?MAIL::SHAHNAMMehran Shahnam @STOThu Apr 30 1992 16:207
    Thanks for great suggestions.  Checking for TM process is easy, but
    Dave you lost with K603 ;-).  I'm a "patch-novice", if that's even a
    word.  Is there an easy way to check if the patch has been applied or
    not?
    
    Thanks again for all the help.
    Mehran
295.12Clearer, I hopeAIMTEC::ZANIEWSKI_DWhy would CSC specialists need training?Thu Apr 30 1992 19:1311
        A non-privileged user can't tell if a patch is present, unless the
        expected functionality is missing.
        
        A system manager looks in the [ALLIN1.SOURCES.A1PATCH$JOURNALS]
        directory.
        
        The TM_SERVER process, is the part where the fix is needed.  It's
        only run on the remote users system.  Call the system manager of that
        system and ask him if K603 is installed.
        
        Dave Zaniewski