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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

285.0. "MAIL addressee anomoly" by GIDDAY::ROWED () Fri Mar 20 1992 01:23

Hi there,

Customer has a query re EMAIL addresses.

On his network, SOME users, but not ALL users create a mail message and at the
TO: field they enter, say, ROWE and press the carriage return.  This returns
the mail address in the form ROWE DEBBIE.  If he enters ROWE followed by the
FIND key, the network address is returned, i.e. ROWEDEBBIE@SNOV01.

He has been given an explanation that this is the expected behaviour, as the
entry is in PROFILE.DAT and also NETWORK.DAT.  He does not accept this answer 
because he has emptied NETWORK.DAT and it still happens, and why does it 
happen only to some users?

I don't know much about this side of things, so any help/information would be 
appreciated.  Why does the carriage return and the find keys act differently?

Thanks, Deb

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
285.1	DDS?	UTRTSC::BOSMAN	We're just sugar mice in the rain	`Fri Mar 20 1992 07:40`	3
	Do you have DDS running and OA$DDS_PRIME set to 2? Sjaak.
285.2	YES	GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7357714	`Tue Mar 31 1992 01:42`	12
	Hello, >> Do you have DDS running and OA$DDS_PRIME set to 2? YES & YES... mnode is off in everyone's profile entry. Any thoughts? 'Chele
285.3	The answer was YES, what is next?	GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7357714	`Thu Apr 02 1992 02:21`	7
	Hello again, What happens next? 'Chele
285.4	Me thinks...	SNOC02::ZORBASSTUART	NULL Junior	`Thu Apr 02 1992 09:47`	5
	I think he's suggesting that the network like address may be being returned from DDS. Stuart
285.5	Hello Alpharetta??	IOSG::SHOVE	Dave Shove -- REO-D/3C	`Thu Apr 02 1992 13:13`	7
	This could be something to do with DDS caching - we'll have to wait for someone (perhaps in Georgia?) who knows a bit about DDS. I'm assuming it isn't version 3. If it is, it could be to do with the new escalation mechanism. Dave.
285.6	I don't think so	AIMTEC::WICKS_A	Vote Bill'n'Opus for a weirder USA	`Thu Apr 02 1992 17:21`	1

285.7	V2.4	GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7355693	`Fri Apr 03 1992 02:14`	3

285.8	?	GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7355693	`Thu Apr 09 1992 01:57`	10
	Hello again, I guess the main irritation with this for the customer is that it doesn't happen for all users, & there appears to be no pattern for it. Any further thoughts??? 'Chele
285.9	All questions - No answers	AIMTEC::WICKS_A	Vote Bill'n'Opus for a weirder USA	`Thu Apr 09 1992 02:42`	15
	Chele, OK i'll bite are the addresses really coming out of DDS? Do you get the same results using DIR SMD? If so is the MHS O/R address built properly? The base note has ROWEDEBBIE@node instead of ROWDEBBIE@A1@NODE. Is the symbol OA$DDS_AREA_ROUTE correctly set to @A1@NODE? Does anyone else follow this? Regards, Andrew.D.Wicks
285.10		GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7355693	`Mon Apr 13 1992 04:04`	15
	Hello Andrew, >> OK i'll bite (I'd HEARD that... :) ) The customer, unfortunately, is not in fow a few days, I will get back to you when I have more info. Thanks again, Chele P.S. (will you keep "talking" to me if I tell you I'm 1/4 Welsh?)
285.11	more infor	GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7355693	`Tue Apr 14 1992 01:39`	37
	>> Do you get the same results using DIR SMD? No, SMD shows only the local information. >> If so is the MHS O/R address built properly? I THINK so, addressing standard is "name init@A1@node" >> Is the symbol OA$DDS_AREA_ROUTE correctly set to @A1@NODE? Nope, no such or similar symbol OR logical, even on wildcard. Example is ALL-IN-1 user, Ian Sleep. His ALL-IN-1 username is SLEEP I. SLEEP I <FIND> gets the ALL-IN-1 address SLEEP I <RETURN> gets the ALL-IN-1 address SLEEP <RETURN> gets the node address (ie SLEEP I @A1@node) Once the ALL-IN-1 username has been "found", it appears to be cached for the remainder of that form - once the form is finished, the initial behaviour returns. The customer is attempting to train his users to use FIND rather than return. The problem is with non-ALL-IN-1 addresses affects a procedure they run there. They send messages to other nodes (what a remarkable idea). A shared filing system exists (I don't know how it is set up). A report is filed in that shared filing system. A message is then broadcast to various users staing that the report is available. The title of the message contains the location of the report. If this message is sent using the node rather than the ALL-IN-1 address, the information in the title about the location of the report is lost. Thanks again, Chele
285.12	UM well go back to square 1	YR2000::WICKS_A	More Ship dates than actual Ships	`Fri Apr 17 1992 02:00`	12
	Chele, Which quarter is Welsh? (:==:) If DIR SMD is blank and OA$DDS_AREA_ROUTE is blank then the subscribers weren't built correctly - what does the MANAGER have as an MHS O/R address. If it's not MANAGER@A1@NODE then you're going to have to rebuild the subscribers from scratch - ho ho Regards, Andrew.D.Wicks
285.13	pattern failing to appear	GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7355693	`Thu Apr 23 1992 06:33`	28
	Hello and Greetings, >> If DIR SMD is blank and OA$DDS_AREA_ROUTE is blank then the subscribers >> weren't built correctly DIR SMD returns the ALL-IN-1 name of the user <GET OA$DDS_AREA_ROUTE returns nowt DDS was originally populated via MBMAN >> - what does the MANAGER have as an MHS O/R address? $MC MBMAN SHOW DDS SUBSCRIBER/FULL/NAME=MANAGER gives an MHS address for another node, but the syntax is correct What is really bugging this customer is the different functionality for "find" & "return". >> Which quarter is Welsh? (:==:) Well, it isn't the Spanish quarter! Thanks & regards, Chele
285.14	beep	GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7355693	`Thu Apr 30 1992 06:47`	1

285.15	No ideas	AIMTEC::WICKS_A	The Mancs will NEVER win the lge	`Sat May 09 1992 02:03`	9
	Chele, Sorry my brain's gone completely on this one... I can't think of anything. Guess you could SPR it and get the DDS experts in Engineering to take a look at it (:==:) Regards, Andrew.D.Wicks
285.16	hero wanted	GIDDAY::BURT	Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7355693	`Tue May 26 1992 02:05`	12
	Hello, Someone sent me mail saying that he would look at this for/with me, but he was going on hols & would be back around the nowth of May. I cleverly deleted his mail.... so whoever you are, PLEASE mail me again (& I hope you had a nice holiday) Thanks & regards, Chele