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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

268.0. "Some General Questions" by MINDER::FLACKI (%ALL-IN-1-I-NEWFEA, "ALL-IN-1 New Feature") Wed Mar 18 1992 10:03

        I've got several questions about V3.0 that I can't seem to 
        resolve on my own, can anyone help ?
        
        1) How does OA$DDS_PRIME relate to the Mail Breakpoints. I 
        thought if you set OA$DDS_PRIME to 2 Breakpoints would be 
        disabled and searches done automatically - Obviously wrong 
        because I've tried both combinations of OA$DDS_PRIME and 
        everything looks the same ??
        
        2) What is the Minimum blocks for Sender/Fetcher for ? What 
        should happen when the minimum is reached ??
        
        3) Is the V3 documentation online ?
        
        4) How do I log problems ? I've found a couple so far with the 
        original network SSB kit. Out of interest they are:
        	I cannot delete a User Profile with SM MUA D DP
        	I cannot create a BLP using CM C <fill in form> <Next 
        	Screen> A
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268.1Partial AnswersSCOTTC::MARSHALLPearl-white, but slightly shop-soiledWed Mar 18 1992 11:1920
Hi,

A few things, but not complete I'm afraid.

1. OA$DDS_PRIME has nothing to do with breakpoints.  The value of this logical
simply determines where (and if) DDS is to be searched.  The operation of
breakpoints during a DDS search is controlled by something else, but I can't
remember what at the moment...

2. Don't know

3. Yes, but I don't know hwere; I believe A1INFO has all the details...

4. If you're a registered field-test site, then you (or your system manager)
should know about the QAR system and use that.  If you've just installed the
V3.0 kit for the fun of it, then I guess you should report things via the CSC.
Alternatively, if you explain the problems in more detail in here,
someone may be able to give some help...

Scott
268.2Nice one!IOSG::TYLDESLEYWed Mar 18 1992 11:548
    Hi Ian,
    
    Re. >> "I cannot delete a User Profile with SM MUA D DP"
    
    	Thanks for this. This is fixed in a PFR.
    
    Cheers,
    DaveT
268.3CheckingSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindWed Mar 18 1992 12:013
    We seem to have some problems with CM$GETABLP.FRM. Checking..
    
    Tony
268.4WorkaroundSIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindWed Mar 18 1992 12:049
    Checked. Known bug. The CM$GETABLP form didn't make it onto the kit
    (for some reason).
    
    Workaround: Create a boilerplate and then use GOLD/Get to import the
    boilerplate file you want to use as a template.
    
    Sorry about the inconvenience.
    
    Tony
268.5Ah Ha !!MINDER::FLACKI%ALL-IN-1-I-NEWFEA, &quot;ALL-IN-1 New Feature&quot;Wed Mar 18 1992 13:5217
        Thanks for the quick and useful response.
                
               
        ** I still can't find anything on Sender/Fetcher Block Limits, 
        but am madly copying documentation over now. **
        
        It looks like everything is in hand on the fixes side.
                
        CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED 
	CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED 
                
        And my problem with OA$DDS_PRIME ?? I couldn't understand the
        results I was getting. You Have to come out of ALL-IN-1 and go
        back in for any change in the logical to take effect !!
                
                Thanks,
                Ian.
268.6If you want to fix the CM C (BLP) {NEXT SCREEN} ASIOG::T_REDMONDThoughts of an Idle MindWed Mar 18 1992 15:44187
    To fix the CM bug, select the base element CM$OPTIONS$BLP/FRM/ENGLISH
    and copy it into the development area. Then edit the element named data
    and replace it with the named data included here after the line feed. 
    
    Tony
    
;;~~HIS_SEL~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "HIS"\
DO CM_GET_HISTORY

;;~~DIF_SEL~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIF"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="NOSEL1_SITE"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE        

;;~~DIFA_SEL~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIFA"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="NOSEL1_SITE"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE        

;;~~DIFB_SEL~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIFB"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="NOSEL1_SITE"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE        

;;~~DIFL_SEL~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIFL"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="NOSEL1_SITE"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE        

;;~~DIFS_SEL~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIF"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="NOSEL1_SDC"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE        

;;~~EI~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "EI"\
XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_OUTPUT_FILE="OAUSER:CM_INFO_TMP.WPL"\
DO CM_GET_ELEMENT_INFO\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"

;;~~EIS~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "EIS"\
XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_OUTPUT_FILE="OAUSER:CM_INFO_TMP.WPL"\
DO CM_GET_ELEMENT_INFO_SDC\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"

;;~~HIS~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "HIS"\GET #CM_STATUS = 1\
.IF #RFA EQS "" THEN XOP "~~HIS_SEL~~"\GET OA$STATUS = #CM_STATUS
\IFSTATUS\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_HIS_FUNC = "MOD"\DO CM_GET_HISTORY\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~DIF~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIF"\GET #CM_STATUS = 1\
.IF #RFA EQS "" THEN XOP "~~DIF_SEL~~"\GET OA$STATUS = #CM_STATUS
\IFSTATUS\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="GET"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~DIFA~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIFA"\GET #CM_STATUS = 1\
.IF #RFA EQS "" THEN XOP "~~DIFA_SEL~~"\GET OA$STATUS = #CM_STATUS
\IFSTATUS\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="GET"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~DIFB~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIFB"\GET #CM_STATUS = 1\
.IF #RFA EQS "" THEN XOP "~~DIFB_SEL~~"\GET OA$STATUS = #CM_STATUS
\IFSTATUS\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="GET"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~DIFL~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIFL"\GET #CM_STATUS = 1\
.IF #RFA EQS "" THEN XOP "~~DIFL_SEL~~"\GET OA$STATUS = #CM_STATUS
\IFSTATUS\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="GET"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~DIFS~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DIFS"\GET #CM_STATUS = 1\
.IF #RFA EQS "" THEN XOP "~~DIFS_SEL~~"\GET OA$STATUS = #CM_STATUS
\IFSTATUS\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_DIFF_FUNC="GET"\DO CM_GET_DIFFERENCE\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~ET~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ET"\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_OUTPUT_FILE = #CM_SRC_OUTPUT = "OAUSER:CM_OUT_DO_TMP.WPL"\
GET #CM_SRC_LOC= "DEV"\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
GET OA$FUNCTION=CM$ETYPES.GET_SOURCE[#CM_GET_ETYPES_KEY]\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~ETL~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ETL"\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_OUTPUT_FILE = #CM_SRC_OUTPUT = "OAUSER:CM_OUT_DO_TMP.WPL"\
GET #CM_SRC_LOC= "LIV"\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
GET OA$FUNCTION=CM$ETYPES.GET_SOURCE[#CM_GET_ETYPES_KEY]\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~ETS~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ETS"\XOP "~~DISPLAY_MESSAGE~~"\
GET #CM_OUTPUT_FILE = #CM_SRC_OUTPUT = "OAUSER:CM_OUT_DO_TMP.WPL"\
GET #CM_SRC_LOC= "SDC"\GET #CM_ATT_TYPE="WPSPLUS"\
GET OA$FUNCTION=CM$ETYPES.GET_SOURCE[#CM_GET_ETYPES_KEY]\
.IF #CM_STATUS NE 1 THEN GET OA$DISPLAY=#CM_DISPLAY_MESSAGE\\FORCE

;;~~ETD~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ETD"\
XOP "~~GET_MESS~~"\
XOP "~~ETDF~~",@#CM_D_FU\GET #CM_STATUS=1

;;~~ETLD~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ETLD"\XOP "~~GET_MESS~~"\
XOP "~~ETLDF~~",@#CM_D_FU\GET #CM_STATUS=1

;;~~ETSD~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ETSD"\XOP "~~GET_MESS~~"\
XOP "~~ETSDF~~",@#CM_D_FU\GET #CM_STATUS=1

;;~~ETDF~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ETDF"\GET #CM_OUTPUT_FILE = #CM_SRC_OUTPUT = 
 "OAUSER:CM_OUT_DO_TMP.TXT" \
 GET #CM_SRC_LOC = "DEV" \
 GET OA$FUNCTION=CM$ETYPES.GET_SOURCE[#CM_D_ETYPESKEY@#CM_DIF_ELE_NO]

;;~~ETSDF~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ETSDF"\GET #CM_OUTPUT_FILE = #CM_SRC_OUTPUT = 
 "OAUSER:CM_OUT_DO_TMP.TXT" \
 GET #CM_SRC_LOC = "SDC" \
 GET OA$FUNCTION=CM$ETYPES.GET_SOURCE[#CM_D_ETYPESKEY@#CM_DIF_ELE_NO]

;;~~ETLDF~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "ETLDF"\GET #CM_OUTPUT_FILE = #CM_SRC_OUTPUT = 
 "OAUSER:CM_OUT_DO_TMP.TXT" \
 GET #CM_SRC_LOC = "LIV" \
 GET OA$FUNCTION=CM$ETYPES.GET_SOURCE[#CM_D_ETYPESKEY@#CM_DIF_ELE_NO]

;;~~GET_MESS~~;;

GET #CM_D_MESS@#CM_DIF_ELE_NO = CM$OPTIONS$TYPE:ALTKEY.DESC[#OPTION]

;;~~DT~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "DT"\
FORM CM$GETDBLP\.IF OA$FORM_DISPOSE EQ 2 THEN GET #CM_CHOICE="DT"\\
CLOSE_PRIOR\\GET #CM_STATUS = 1

;;~~CT~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "CT"\
 FORM CM$GETCBLP\
  .IF OA$FORM_DISPOSE EQ 2 THEN GET #CM_CHOICE="CT"\\
  CLOSE_PRIOR\\
  GET #CM_STATUS = 1

;;~~AT~~;;

GET #CM_ND_XOPD = "AT"\GET #CM_SEL_TITLE = CM$_SELECT_TEXT\
 FORM CM$GETATEXT\
 .IF OA$FORM_DISPOSE EQ 2 
 THEN 
    GET #CM_CHOICE="AT"\\
    CLOSE_PRIOR\\
    GET #CM_STATUS = 1
268.7A Request, an explanation and some answers...IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer&#039;s ApprenticeWed Mar 18 1992 16:5925
    I've hacked the text of note 268.5 to remove the address of the
    documentation. We'd prefer that to not be widely advertised at the
    moment.
    
    Re .0
    
    Q2) This is the number of blocks on the Postmaster's disc below which it
    might blowup when trying to fetch mail, so it doesn't try this avoiding
    it stopping in the middle. If you set it to 0, I think it doesn't do
    the check.
    
    Q3) Not currently - see above.
    
    Q4) I don't imagine the CSC will entertain bug reports until the
    product ships. If you aren't a field test site, this is your only route
    until then. Of course according to the terms of this conference, you
    aren't guaranteed an answer, so remember to bug them formally later.
    
    Re .5
    
    You can probably get the modified logical picked up by doing
    <OA$INI_LOGICALS. Or just set a job version form within ALL-IN-1 by
    <GET LOG$OA$DDS_PRIME = '2' or whatever.
    
    Graham
268.8The missing questions/answersAIMTEC::WICKS_AVote Bill&#039;n&#039;Opus for a weirder USAWed Mar 18 1992 17:0131
    Ian,
    
    Scott in .1 was right about DDS but wrong about how you get support
    though i'm sure it was an honest mistake.
    
    As for the Sender/Fetcher minimum blocks question well page 5-8
    of the Mail Management Guide has a larges section on this. It says
    that the Sender/Fetcher will not run if the number of free blocks
    on the OA$MTI_DATA device is less than the value in the SMB field.
    
    It does not unfortunately say what happens or where or how any error
    report is issued and unfortunately as I have 97K free space on my
    system I haven't tested this.
    
    * Start of PUblic Service Announcement * 
    
    If you are not a registered Field Test site then the CSC (at least in the
    U.S) is not yet quite ready to fully support you - sorry. we'll do our
    best as always but will probably end up directing you here. 
    
    As I presume you obtained your kit directly from Engineering then you'll 
    have to ask your questions either here or use their IPR system.  
    
    As soon as the Product FCS's in the U.S we'll be doing good old 24*7
    of course.
    
    * End of Public Service announcement *
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
268.9The tall one beat me to the replyAIMTEC::WICKS_AVote Bill&#039;n&#039;Opus for a weirder USAWed Mar 18 1992 17:047
    Re .7,
    
    4500 miles apart - same answers except your grammar is better.
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
268.10How's grammar mate ?GIDDAY::SETHIMan from DownunderThu Mar 19 1992 00:028
    Hi Andrew,
    
    How can you tell from 4500 miles that his Grammar's better !!!!  Have
    you met her ?  You must be good friend's that's what it is I guess.
    
    Just having a bit of fun
    
    Sunil
268.11Thanks A Lot.MINDER::FLACKI%ALL-IN-1-I-NEWFEA, &quot;ALL-IN-1 New Feature&quot;Thu Mar 19 1992 09:139
        Thanks,
        
        for your help so far.
        
        No doubt there will be more questions as I hit the appropriate 
        modules in the course I am preparing.
        
        Thanks again
        Ian.