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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

242.0. "More installation questions" by TRNING::ALLERTON (Yesterday's solutions...Tomorrow) Mon Mar 16 1992 16:25

    
    Some questions relating to the Version 3.0 Installation process
    :
    
    
    1) Previously, issuing the command $ SET LOGINS/INTERACTIVE = 0
    (which was previously documented for V2.4) caused problems in V5.n
    (the installation could fail)..Even though the installation
    documentation now recommends Shutting down ALL-IN-1 instead, has
    the problem with $SET LOGINS/INTERACTIVE been fixed (and if so,
    as of which VMS V5.n version?)
    
    2) There was an incidental problem (FMS related) reported where
    terminals would hang...While development on FMS has ceased, there
    was supposedly a patch written to address the problem.  Will this
    patch be made available to all Version 3 customers, and if so, how?.
    
    3) The installation guide (section 6.10.4) instructs that files
    in the SITE area that are installed in memory should be deinstalled
    
    before installation.  Exactly which files?  (SITEOAFORM, SITEMEMRES,
    or just newly added .FLC's?)  What if I've compiled MANAGER or CM.FLB
    (not in SITE area)...shouldn't they be removed as well ?
                                                                       
    Thanks,
    
    Steve
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242.1What does he know?AIMTEC::WICKS_AVote Bill'n'Opus for a weirder USAMon Mar 16 1992 17:3222
    Steve,
    
    OK i'll have a shot at these and then GAP can make fun of me.
    
    1) VMS 5.4-3 for other releases there is a patch in the VOID system.
    
    2) No - Here I quote from the ultimate authority (the project
          manager) - the FMS patch was not verified against ALL-IN-1 v3.0
          in time to meet the original SSB submission and was omitted.
          the patch is still available on demand. I have not seen the
          new SSb kit so I will say no more. 
    
    3) In my experience it is generally talking about your own .EXEs
       the excellent installation procedure will actually tell you which ones 
       you didn't do when it's setting acls and you go and do them by hand 
       afterwards.
     
    Your turn GAP ...
    
    Regards,
    
    Andrew.D.Wicks
242.2I agree (A commemorative stamp will be issued shortly!)IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeTue Mar 17 1992 09:5321
    RE .0
    
    1) I would have said ask VMS, since it was their bug, but Andy seems
    happy with the story on that one. Shutting down ALL-IN-1 doesn't mean
    that you don't need to SET INTERACTIVE_LOGINS, since you still need to
    protect against Help libraries etc., being accessed.
    
    2) No information.
    
    3) We handle removal and re-installation of the FLCs that we know
    about, i.e. OAFORM and MEMRES. If you have any other FLCs installed,
    then these might fail, but the most likely problem is $INSTALLed
    shareable images. The one that we mostly see here is OALSE.EXE, since
    we have the LSE ASSET installed.
    
    Graham
    
    PS Andy, I hardly need to make fun of you about your answers here when
    you continue to believe that Wales have a rugby team and that Liverpool
    can play football...
    
242.3Better Way protecting OA$MAIN.EXEEEMELI::SALMINENHannu Salminen, PTG -FinlandWed Apr 22 1992 14:3511
	After some hard working (when using $SET LOGINS/INTER=0 before
	trying to install A1024CSP013 patch) I have learned that I never
	try to use this in VMS v 5.4.

	Instead I nowadays change the file protection of the OA$MAIN.EXE
	image file, removing all the privileges off the World. This keeps 
	users out of using ALL-IN-1 when installing patches or assets.

							Hannu