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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

119.0. "DECmcc and ALL-IN-1 File Cabinet Server" by AIMTEC::PORTER_T (Terry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSC) Thu Feb 27 1992 16:43

You are all probably going to get fed up of all my questions before I finish,
but I have to stand up in front of a class and pretend to know this stuff in
a couple of weeks ;^}

Looking at the startup of the FCS during ALL-IN-1 startup the following shared
images are installed (among others) and the comments refer to them as MCC. What
is MCC?

SYS$SHARE:OAFC$MTS_SHR.EXE
SYS$SHARE:OAFC$MTS_PRIV_SHR.EXE

Also a system logical name MCC_TDF is defined to be 0 (zero) if it does
not already exist. What is this logical name used for?

BTW: The FCS installation guide lists these images (in appendix B) as

SYS$LIBRARY	OAFC$MCC$MTS_PRIV_SHR.EXE
SYS$LIBRARY	OAFC$MTS_SHR.EXE

Do I have an old version of this manual?

Terry
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119.1Howzat?IOSG::PYEGraham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's ApprenticeThu Feb 27 1992 23:0315
    Shame on you Terry, have you forgotten England so soon? Of course you
    know that MCC stands for Marylebone Cricket Club, the ruling body of
    baseball when it's played by the proper rules....
    
    But I digress - MCC stands for Management Control Cent{re|er} and it's
    an enterprise wide network management thingy. The FCS needed some bits
    of code out of MCC, but since MCC makes ALL-IN-1's image look like a
    five line BASIC program, it was thought wiser to lift the code that the
    FCS needed and make some small private images.
    
    I seem to recall there was a more extensive discussion early on in
    DIAMONDFT which you might like to filter the interesting bits out of
    and bring here.
    
    Graham
119.2SYS$SHARE = SYS$LIBRARY usuallyIOSG::TALLETTMit Schuh bish hiFri Feb 28 1992 09:0414
    Hi there!
    
    	The SYS$LIBRARY/SYS$SHARE thing is a mistake I think. There used
    	to be places where the FCS did IF .not.installed(SYS$LIBRARY:thingy)
    	THEN INSTALL SYS$SHARE:thingy.
    
    	I think the assumption was, that SYS$LIBRARY and SYS$SHARE were the
    	same place, which they usually are, but the assumption caused
    	confusing messages where they weren't. All the places in the code
    	that I have seen that assumed this have been fixed, I guess its
    	time to set to work on the documentation. :-) QAR please.
    
    Regards,
    Paul
119.3Could not find anything in DIAMONDFTAIMTEC::PORTER_TTerry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSCFri Feb 28 1992 17:1223
Re: .1

Graham, Thanks for the info, but I searched the whole of DIAMONDFT for MCC and
did not find anything that described what MCC was used for or what the logical
name MCC_TDF is for.

I did find a note in the ABBOTT::A1_FILE_CABINET_SERVER conference that hinted
that MCC_TDF was related to time offset from GMT, but did not give a full
explanation.

Can anyone explain the use of the logical and what the FCS uses MCC for, not
necessarily a detailed description but enough to be able to sound as though
I know what I'm talking about when a customer asks what these images are for.

I'll also ask the same question in the FCS conference.

Re: .2

Paul, Do you really want a QAR against an FCS document that is not part of the
DIAMOND doc set? I'll happily do it but I wanted to check that a QAR to IOSG
was the best way first.

Terry
119.4Hmmm. I dunno. We can always reassign itIOSG::TALLETTMit Schuh bish hiFri Feb 28 1992 19:551
    
119.5OK, it will only be a P4 anywayAIMTEC::PORTER_TTerry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSCFri Feb 28 1992 20:417
Paul,

I'll QAR it at P4, and I'm sure it will eventually find it's way to the
correct group. Of course by then they will have written a whole new installation
guide for the next version ... ;^}

Terry
119.6MCC_TDF definitionCHRLIE::HUSTONWed Mar 18 1992 21:2516
    
    re .0
    
    Terry,
    
    I think in another note about the FCS and MCC you asked (or someone
    did) what the logical MCC_TDF stood for.  Well here it is.
    
    it stands for Time Difference from GMT. You can either define it to
    the real value or 0. It is used internally by the threads package to
    coordinate stuff. Basically from what I am told there is no real use
    for it so either define to 0 or the real GMT difference, it won't 
    matter.
    
    --Bob
    
119.7ThanksAIMTEC::PORTER_TTerry Porter, ALL-IN-1 Support, Atlanta CSCMon Mar 23 1992 16:435
Bob,

Thanks for researching this.

Terry