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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:	OLD ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:	Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:	IOSG::PYE

Created:	Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:	Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	4343
Total number of notes:	18308

86.0. "Mail sender gets own message back" by KURTAN::WESTERBACK (After all, who is John Galt?) Mon Feb 24 1992 16:42

    Hallo,
    
    A customer has a strange problem in ALL-IN-1:
    
    User A sends ALL-IN-1 mail to user B, who has VMSMAIL set up as
    MAIDES in his profile. User B gets his mail, but user A also gets
    exactly the same mail back (the one he just sent that is, no error reports).
       
    If anyone else sends mail to B, no problem. If A sends mail to anyone
    else, also OK. It's only this A to B that's shown this behaviour.
    These users are on the same system, but could DDS somehow cause this
    anyway?
    
    ALL-IN-1 V2.4
    Message Router V3.1B
    VMS V5.4-3
    
    Thanks,
    Hans Westerback
    TSC, Stockholm

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
86.1	COPY_SELF	IOSG::TALLETT	Mit Schuh bish hi	`Mon Feb 24 1992 18:10`	14
	Hi there! Gosh, a mail question that even I can answer! The reason is probably because the user A has his VMSMAIL account set up to send himself a copy of all mails sent. See MAIL> HELP SET COPY_SELF or type MAIL> SET COPY_SELF NOSEND Regards, Paul
86.2		KURTAN::WESTERBACK	After all, who is John Galt?	`Mon Feb 24 1992 20:06`	5
	Thanks, at first your answer didn't make sense to me, but after testing I see that you're right! I didn't realise that user A's VMSMAIL setting had any bearing on this problem. Hans
86.3	An explanation	IOSG::TALLETT	Mit Schuh bish hi	`Tue Feb 25 1992 10:27`	9
	Hi again! I have it on good authority that depending on how you address the mail to VMSMAIL (eg not if using MRGATE) then ALL-IN-1 actually fires up VMSMAIL in the subprocess. That is why the settings have a bearing. Regards, Paul
86.4	Mounting one of my favourite soapboxes	FORTY2::ASH	Grahame Ash @REO	`Tue Feb 25 1992 12:57`	11
	This fact should be more widely-known. As Paul says, if a user sets MAIDES to be VMSMAIL, then the SENDING process (which will be the Fetcher for remote mail, real people for local mail) runs VMSMAIL in the subprocess. This can be a pain if you just want to 'send a quick message'. The same, of course, applies to the auto-forward argument. Users who insist on getting their mail 'immediately' (by setting MAIDES = VMSMAIL, or AF to _user, rather than setting AF via MRGATE) should be made aware that they are penalising other users of the system. grahame
86.5	Unless Tony has already started...	AIMTEC::WICKS_A	Vote Bill'n'Opus for a weirder USA	`Tue Feb 25 1992 16:59`	8
	Grahame, Now if we wrote a book everyone in the world would know the answers to these life or death questions such as "why is C.TXT called C.TXT?" Regards, Andrew.D.Wicks