Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

58.0. "ALL-IN-1 / WordPerfect &MERGE" by GIDDAY::BURT (Chele Burt - CSC Sydney, DTN 7357714) Thu Feb 20 1992 04:15

Hello,


 I have come across a problem similar to that described in ALL-IN-1_V24 
 note  728.11. (See next page for text of the old Note). 
 However, in that note the symptoms were slighly different. I have contacted 
 the author of that note, who suggested that other noters may 
 contribute/benefit to/from this entry.

We have a customer running ALL-IN-1 V2.4 with WordPerfect (5.1) integration. 
The customer is doing a boiler plate MERGE and getting a WordPerfect file 
as output. The file contains a lot of spurious left and right margin escape
characters. The customer has contacted WordPerfect and they have told him 
the problem is caused by the MERGE picking up an old WPS-PLUS ruler. 
WordPerfect has said there is nothing they can do. The result is that the 
inter office memo header is off centre towards the left hand margin.

 What the customer is trying to do is to set up his EM forms... 
 Unlike the note I referred to, what is happening with in this instance is 
 not so much a problem with losing WordPerect attributes, but gaining them!
 It appears that the MERGE is automatically inserting 4 codes at the front, 
 an LR margin code, a TAB select code, a linespace code & a justification 
 off code. The ruler settings are L .74 cm & R .64 cm 
 - and this seems to cause most of the grief.

The customer went to the extent of including a dummy WordPerfect document in
the boilerplate - this made no difference.

 The Oz WordPerfect office have spoken to the US WordPerect office & 
 the finger has been pointed at some sort of attempt by MERGE to 
 automatically insert a WPS-PLUS ruler, which then ends up getting 
 interpreted by WordPerfect & then damaging the format of the WordPerfect 
 format EMs.

All of this has made the READing of filed documents pretty difficult.


Does anyone have any contributions to make, or comments on the likelihood of 
the behaviour changing under Diamond & whatever WordPerfect do for their 
integration? (or tactful ways to say , "I'm sorry, use WPS-PLUS? :) )

Thanks & regards,

Chele Burt

P.S.
Text of original note is on the next page.



Note 728.11                WordPerfect versus WPS-PLUS                  11 of 23
SANFAN::LESLIE_DA "Do it right the 1st time!"        23 lines  19-JUN-199110:09
      -< MERGEing WPC documents doesn't give you the same WPC attributes >-


    I am currently at a site wanting to use WordPerfect as boilerplates
    with the MERGE function.  It appears that almost all of the attributes
    that are in WordPerfect files, but not supported by the ALL-IN-1 DSAB
    are ignored during the MERGE.

    Since MERGE doesn't know diddly about WordPerfect (as an editor) and
    will only do DSAB-supported things to the resulting document, I would
    hazard a guess that this is a limitation of their DSAB implementation
    and/or (choke) the limits of the current text DSAB capabilities.

    This isn't a slam on the text DSAB developers!  Capabilities have been
    implemented for the attributes that WPS-PLUS supports - who could put
    boundaries on what should be implemented there (and how would
    WordPerfect Corp. know how to access them...).

    I had a list of the attributes retained and lost (that were currently
    known) from my one-document try at this MERGEing WPC documents.  Anyone
    interested in this?

    FWIW,
Dan

    
                                     	
    I had margin problems with converting WPS-PLUS documents to
    WordPerfect. It seems that WordPerfect looks at the printer you are
    using and then sets the margins accordingly, but only if the existing
    margin settings are less.
                                                        
    Since I was using .WPL boilerplates I simply indented the left and
    right margins far enough to overcome WordPerfect overriding the values.
    
    Another thought... why don't you generate a WPS-PLUS output file then
    use the COPY function. See if that makes any difference.
    
    	Cheers,
    
    	Stuart.