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44.1 | Looks like it to me! | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Wed Feb 19 1992 14:52 | 16 |
| Licia,
Yes it looks like that to me. I don't normally see the kits after
they've gone out so I can't be sure.
You could look on the tapes (if you have the actual media, and se what
the labels say) If all the language tapes are the same then you're
right.
Or you could look at what the savesets are called and see if the
Language savesets are all called ASLENGLISH010.*, which again would
tell you that all you have is the country kits.
I can't wait to hear about all your other problems!!
Graham
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44.2 | They are English kits for different countries | PETRUS::HOFMANN | Stefan Hofmann, LC Frankfurt, ISE | Thu Feb 20 1992 07:42 | 30 |
| Licia,
yes, the kits you named in your note are all English language kits with
teh support in the country named behind that. So, US/BE means, English
language supported for Belgium.
Looking at the long list, I wonder where your customer got all these
kits from....?
What is the combination your customer really wants to install? From
your node name I assume you're located in Italy, so let me give you an
example for an Italian system:
The C-component (named ASCIT010 for Italy) defines which languages are
supported in Italy. Basically you can install all Latin1 languages you
want to, but you will find that some keyboard layouts and some country
specific things are missing. For every installation you can only
install ONE C-component - if your customeer is in Italy this should be
ASCIT010. If you for example want to have French and Spanish together
with Italian, you need the following kits:
ASLITALIAN010
ASLFRENCH010
ASLSPANISH010
(I hope the names are correct)
Still I wonder you sold these kits to your customer ...
regards,
Stefan
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44.3 | other problems with multilang | ROMTSS::DESPOSITO | | Thu Feb 20 1992 08:11 | 29 |
| Thanks for your help.
The customer bought all these kits regularly from DEC, and he bought ALL
FULL KITS ,not one full kit and additional languages.So now he has 9 copies
of all manuals and (wrong) kits.
Yes, I am in Italy, but the customer wants to install the US kit as first
language, so I think that I have to look at the American supported
languages.
Now that I'm sure that the Digital salesman has done a mess, I have many
other problems...
1) The customer has only one licence (ALL-IN-1 STARTER), but I think that
he needs also additional licenses for any additional language.Is it true?
2) I understand that not all the languages the customer bought are
supported in the US kit.I've found a file OAMARKET.BLI where some languages
are commented out and some not.Does anyone of you know if I can work with
this file ( and other files) to make all these languages supported?I can
also BLISS compile and relink ALL-IN-1 Starter, if needed.
3)By the way, is there any possibility to have the correct kits in some way
,or we have to order them again? :-(
With the hope to sort out
Licia
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44.4 | Need Licences - And Support agreements! | IOSG::PYE | Graham - ALL-IN-1 Sorcerer's Apprentice | Thu Feb 20 1992 08:58 | 19 |
| 1) Yes, the first starter licence will cover the main language (US
English in your case) but you need additional language licences for all
the other languages. Without those, you won't even be able to do the
installations!
2) It is possible to edit OAMARKET.BLI to chnage the languages
supported. However there are some problems with this. Firstly, it
doesn't affect what is legally supported in your country. Your country
part of DEC must decide which languages it is going to support, and
make the appropriate legal arrangements with the customer for support,
and get agreement for extra support from elsewhere in DEC if you need
it. Secondly, there are other files as well as OAMARKET.BLI that you
have to change. Finally, you aren't supposed to customise STARTER at
all!
3) First get the salesman in a room and hit him for a bit :-) Perhaps
he can then sort out the problem for you!!
Graham
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44.5 | | PETRUS::HOFMANN | Stefan Hofmann, LC Frankfurt, ISE | Thu Feb 20 1992 10:28 | 27 |
| If I were the customer I would now become very very angry, having
bought 9 kits which I don't need.
I don't know exactly which languages were supported by which countries
for STARTER V1, as Graham said it was up to the country teams (LEGs) to
decide. To find out, try the C-component part (3rd part) of the
installation guide. It should contain a printed directory of which
files are in the according C-component. This could give you an idea of
which languages are supported.
All I know is that the US Country Kit supports English language only!
Most of the other countries support all the languages of their
country and English as an additional language. So, if the customer
wants English as first language, I suggest that he installs
AS010 (the base kit)
ASLENGLISH010 (the English language component)
ASCIT010 (the Italian country component)
with his first installation and install Italian language component with
the second installation. (incl. the A1-UI-ITALIAN license)
don't ask me where you could get all these kits from, ask the sales
person who started all this, maybe s/he can organize them...
good luck
Stefan
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44.6 | Give him V2.4 | IOSG::BURTON | ALL-IN-1 Builder | Thu Feb 20 1992 13:56 | 11 |
| Is there any reason why the customer has V1.0 of ALL-IN-1 Starter?
While sorting out which kits he should have, it might be a good idea to
give him V2.4. Also bear in mind that he has paid for 9 full kits,
when he need only have paid for 1 full kit plus (up to) 8 language
kits.
I think it will take a lot to make this customer happy again.
Martin.
P.S. Is the salesman still selling ALL-IN-1?
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44.7 | But this is not unusual, guys! | IOSG::TALLETT | Mit Schuh bish hi | Thu Feb 20 1992 17:25 | 7 |
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Hey guys, this sort of cock-up was the normal case when I was
in the field! It was rare for the customer/salesperson to get
*every* detail right! :-)
Regards,
Paul
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44.8 | Two thoughts, both tongue in cheek... | SCOTTC::MARSHALL | Pearl-white, but slightly shop-soiled | Thu Feb 20 1992 18:44 | 8 |
| Why are we knocking the salesperson? They got nine times more revenue out of
the customer... :-)
And to quote (mis-quote probably) Douglas Adams: salespeople will be "first
against the wall when the revolution comes"
:-)
Scott
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