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Conference iosg::all-in-1_v30

Title:*OLD* ALL-IN-1 (tm) Support Conference
Notice:Closed - See Note 4331.l to move to IOSG::ALL-IN-1
Moderator:IOSG::PYE
Created:Thu Jan 30 1992
Last Modified:Tue Jan 23 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:4343
Total number of notes:18308

22.0. "Removing attached function from email in TM?" by CGOOA::HOMMEN () Sat Feb 15 1992 23:50

    Hi:
    
    Could someone with better ALL-IN-1 programming skills than I give me an
    estimate of how difficult it would be to remove the attached function
    from V2.4 time management meeting request messages, in order that the
    user's mail can be autoforwarded?  Are there fundamental problems with
    this idea (other than the fact that the recipient of the request must
    be relied on to answer).  
    
    The name of the appropriate forms, scripts etc. to mutilate would be
    exceedingly helpful as well.
    
    Thanks in advance for all answers received.
    
    -Krys
    
    
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22.1No good way to do exactly what is wanted - other optionsBUFFER::VICKERSWinners take action not keep scoreSun Feb 16 1992 02:3623
    I fear that removing the FUN attribute is not easily done in that it is
    not added to the document by a form or script.  The CALENDAR SCHEDULE
    MEETING function does EVERYTHING from obtaining the meeting information
    up to sending the actual mail message.  Adding the FUN attribute is
    done in the middle (okay, toward the end) of this.  All of this is done
    in BLISS.

    There have a number of requests on the part of customers to separate
    the processing of the CALENDAR SCHEDULE MEETING function to act more
    like the MAIL CREATE.  This would allow the user and/or programmer to
    control when the meeting request actually is sent as well as performing
    the 'mutilation' you describe.

    I realize that the customer would not appreciate it but you might want
    to ask if they'd accept having a second mail message for the events
    which would then be forwardable.  You could add a CALENDAR
    MAIL_TO_ATTENDEED as a part of the TMAPMEC script for those meetings
    which require the desired forwardablity.  Or, you could check for users
    known to be 'forwarders' (easy to do for the local users by checking
    the MAIL_FORWARD field in the profile).

    Good luck,
    don
22.2Meeting is scheduled when mail is read!AIMTEC::DONOHUE_FMon Feb 17 1992 13:2616
    
    It is my undrstanding that one reason the mail message is NOT forwarded
    to the autoforward user, is that when this message is read the meeting
    is also entered into the user calendar.  If the message is forwarded
    there is a problem in that the meeting would then be added to the wrong
    calendar (ie not the user that was scheduled but the user (s)he has
    forwarded mail to). If this occurs, then that user would likely not be
    able to access the meeting, as (s)he is not the attendee or the scheduler
    of the meeting.  This may not be exactly what occurs, but it is
    generally why these messages are not forwarded.
    
    
    Hope this is helpful,
    
    Faith
    
22.3And another reasonFORTY2::ASHGrahame Ash @REOMon Feb 17 1992 14:484
and when the recipient replies to the request, the reply arrives back at the 
originator's Calendar from someone who wasn't invited!

grahame
22.4Exactly what do you want to do?SHALOT::NICODEMWho told you I'm paranoid???Tue Feb 18 1992 13:2429
	Faith is correct.  Most of the mail functions that exist today deal very
specifically with one or more of the data structures for a particular ALL-IN-1
user.  In the case of the CALREMOTE function, that would be the calendar of a
specific user, as well as their File Cabinet (since scheduling meetings and
replying to them all involve sending mail back and forth).

	The same applies to archiving functions.  Should ALL-IN-1 not intercept
those mail functions, but simply allow them to be autoforwarded, documents being
restored from archive, for example, would end up in the wrong user's File 
Cabinet.

	In trying to understand why you might want meeting notices forwarded to
someone else, it would seem that this "someone else" should have access to the
other user's calendar -- and perhaps mail as well.  That is, if you wish to
autoforward meeting requests, I ass/u/me that you would also grant the
"forwardee" the ability to respond to those meeting requests.  Now, you've got
another problem, since you would need some way to insure that the "forwardee"
has Set Owner access to the original user's calendar.

	As you can tell, between mail access, calendar access, and general data
access, you can end up in quite a bind if you simply allow auto-forwarding of
all mail.  A better solution would be to determine precisely what it is you want
to do (i.e., not "auto-forward all mail", but something like "allow other users
to be able to respond to meeting requests for a user"), and look at other ways
to do that.  Some of it already exists in V2.4 (e.g., Set Owner); some of it
exists in V3.0 (e.g., Set Mail User); and some of it exists in other customized
solutions that we could provide to your customer.

	F
22.5Why autoforward mail?CGOOA::HOMMENSat Feb 22 1992 22:2822
    Hi:
    
    What I was trying to do was find a means of autoforwarding a users mail
    to their ALL-IN-1 MAIL account on a PC LAN.  Since we do not have a
    decent calendaring solution for the PATHWORKS-TEAMLINKS environment, we
    were forced to use ALL-IN-1 IOS for the calendar function (and only for
    the calendar function).  I'll be the first person to agree that this is
    an awkard and difficult solution, but it is the only configuration that
    we could come up with that would provide this function in French.  When
    DEC decides what our LAN direction for calendaring is going to be and
    subsquently provides language variations support...
    
    Thanks for your responses.
    
    P.S.
    
    Paper mail has provided a work-around of sorts for this problem, but I
    am eagerly looking forward to a LAN product for calendaring that has
    links to ALL-IN-1 MAIL.
    
    
    
22.6No elegant TM solutionZPOAC3::SYSTEMTue Mar 24 1992 03:5812
    Hello,
    
    	I have exactly the same requirement as in .-1.
    
    	As long as we do not have corporate wide TM solution for TeamLinks, 
    ALL-IN-1 Mail users , we will have to depend on IOS TM.  Thus 
    autoforwarding of meeting notices to ALL-IN-1 Mail users will be 
    required.  It is not an elegant solution but we have no choice.
    
    Thanks & Rgds,
    Cecilia