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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

3675.0. "VMS 5.4 DECwindow Loginout.exe goes mad !" by BLKPUD::THOMASA (Wow I,ve got a colour ....) Fri Nov 16 1990 11:28

Hi all,
	A vaxstation 3100 I've been looking at displays strange behaviour when 
decwindows is started the decw$server process get started -- the screen goes
grey -- the WSAn process appears but the logo and login box are not displayed --
instead after a few seconds the message:-

"message number 02dba002" is displayed 

	Then the WSAn process dies -- and a new WSAn process takes its place !
this continues ad-infinitum.

	I started accounting but that gave me noe clues -- nothing in
decw$server_error_n.log either. 


	Any ideas anyone ?? 	


 
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3675.1COMICS::FISCHERI've got a special purposeFri Nov 16 1990 12:016
I've seen cycling WSAn processes before. I think the problem
was down to not enough GBLPAGES and GBLSECTIONS.



Ian
3675.2Fonts? Maybe?PEACHS::BELDINSat Nov 17 1990 16:558
	I also ran into this (actually customer solved himself) after
	many hours of dialing in.  Customer had 19" monitor and only
	installed the 100dpi fonts... Once he DECW$TAILOR'd *everything*
	on (like he TOLD ME he did), it wall worked fine...  Another
	example of weirdness when you try to save space...

	/rick
3675.3Yes, fonts could be the problemSTAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, VMS DevelopmentMon Nov 19 1990 13:118
Tailoring on only the 100 dpi fonts is not supported.  You must tailor
on both 75 and 100 dpi fonts for 100 dpi screens.  This is because some
applications require 75 dpi fonts.

However, it doesn't seem right that DECW$LOGINOUT should require 75 dpi
fonts, since it is such a crucial part of the system (and also one of
the more difficult to debug).  I suggest you enter a QAR on this problem
so we can fix it for DECwindows V3.
3675.4I have a VR260-AA and I have only 100dpi fontsSTAR::SZETOSimon Szeto, International Sys. Eng.Mon Nov 19 1990 19:2913
>Tailoring on only the 100 dpi fonts is not supported.  You must tailor
>on both 75 and 100 dpi fonts for 100 dpi screens.  This is because some
>applications require 75 dpi fonts.
    
    Why?
    
    Unsupported or no, I currently don't have any 75dpi fonts on my
    workstation.  (Well, I take that back, I found some DUTCH801_DECMATH*
    fonts; wonder how they got there?)  I don't seem to have problems with
    DECW$LOGINOUT.
    
    --Simon
    
3675.5GBLPAGES is the likely culpritSTAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, VMS DevelopmentMon Nov 19 1990 20:4611
Thanks for the experimental info on DECW$LOGINOUT with 100 dpi fonts.
Why do some applications require 75 dpi fonts?  Because they have
hard-coded 75 dpi font names.  As time has progressed, many of these
applications have been corrected, and in DECwindows V3 I expect we
will have fixed them all.

Now that I re-read the note, I realize that the noter in .2 is not
the same as the noter in .0, so the two problems may not be related.
I'm inclined to go with Ian's suggestion that the problem is not
enough GBLPAGES and/or GBLSECTIONS.  I've certainly seen low values
of these parameters cause cycling of the WSAn processes.
3675.6SCOTMN::FISCHERI've got a special purposeThu Nov 22 1990 06:325
Well, Andy. Just out of interest, are you going to tell us what 
the problem was?


Ian