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Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

3473.0. "Pasting large amounts of info into captive application loses formatting" by NECSC::LEVY (The songs that we hear are just songs of our own) Tue Oct 16 1990 09:48

I'm experiencing an "interesting" occurance using QuickCopy and/or
Cut-and-Paste.

The actual scenario is that I'm making a LAT connection (using LATmaster - 
SET_HOST_LAT) into a captive account that is running an application called
CHAMP/CSC.  The system management team on the CHAMP/CSC system has made sure
that HOSTSYNCH is enabled and that the ALTYPAHD buffers are 2048.

When I attempt to PASTE a large amount of information into the application
(which is running some version of the TPU editor), the formatting of the
information being inserted sometimes gets messed up.

What follows is an example of about 158 lines pasted in to CHAMP/CSC. This was  
generated by merely doing successive SHOW SYS commands on my workstation,
selecting all of the desired information, using Copy from the DECterm to place
in the Clipboard, and then using Paste from the receiving DECterm to place the
information into CHAMP/CSC.  You'll see that about 120 lines into it, the
formatting completely breaks up and then resumes correctly later on.  This is
reproduceable...but it does NOT always occur at the same point.

My questions are:

	- What causes this?
	- Are there any account quotas that need to be adjusted?
	- Any ideas as to how to fix it?

Thanks for any help,

	- Dave

Ezwind� show sys
VAX/VMS V5.4  on node EZWIND  16-OCT-1990 08:08:31.21   Uptime  2 10:22:39
  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts Ph.Mem
00000041 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:00:08.69         0      0
00000084 LEVY_SM1        LEF      4      296   0 00:02:08.73      8941   1308
00000045 ERRFMT          HIB      8     1795   0 00:00:11.48       768     73
00000046 OPCOM           HIB      8      380   0 00:00:02.38       388    127
00000047 AUDIT_SERVER    HIB     10       67   0 00:00:01.15      1407    281
00000048 JOB_CONTROL     HIB     10     1272   0 00:00:05.73       291    218
00000049 IPCACP          HIB     10       12   0 00:00:00.14        79    136
0000004A TP_SERVER       HIB     10    14043   0 00:02:42.12     23475    128
0000004B SYMBIONT_0001   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --             89
0000008C LEVY_SM2        LEF      4      295   0 00:00:10.54      5327   1024
0000008E LEVY_SM4        HIB      4      238   0 00:00:05.12      4202    529
00000051 NETACP          HIB     10      168   0 00:00:27.90      4746     91
00000052 EVL             HIB      5      630   0 00:00:06.23     61221     40  N
00000053 REMACP          HIBO     8       --  swapped  out  --             37
00000054 DECW$SERVER_0   HIB      6    70456   0 00:07:17.17     60561   1707
00000056 LEVY            LEF      4      362   0 00:00:10.24   1098778   1069
00000058 LATACP          HIB     14       11   0 00:06:53.83     53093    209
0000005A SYMBIONT_0002   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --            110
0000009B DECW$TE_1       LEF      6     1818   0 00:01:06.59     10007   3360
0000009C �Dead� Set      CUR      4      749   0 00:00:11.83      5435    512
0000009D LEVY_1          LEF      4      378   0 00:00:05.61      1902    286  S
000000E0 LEVY_2          HIB      7      419   0 00:00:00.53       323    331  S
00000064 DECW$WM_1       LEF      8       71   0 00:01:42.44      7174   1003
Ezwind� show sys
VAX/VMS V5.4  on node EZWIND  16-OCT-1990 08:08:32.49   Uptime  2 10:22:41
  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts Ph.Mem
00000041 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:00:08.69         0      0
00000084 LEVY_SM1        LEF      4      296   0 00:02:08.73      8941   1308
00000045 ERRFMT          HIB      8     1795   0 00:00:11.48       768     73
00000046 OPCOM           HIB      8      380   0 00:00:02.38       388    127
00000047 AUDIT_SERVER    HIB     10       67   0 00:00:01.15      1407    281
00000048 JOB_CONTROL     HIB     10     1272   0 00:00:05.73       291    218
00000049 IPCACP          HIB     10       12   0 00:00:00.14        79    136
0000004A TP_SERVER       HIB     10    14043   0 00:02:42.12     23475    128
0000004B SYMBIONT_0001   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --             89
0000008C LEVY_SM2        LEF      4      295   0 00:00:10.54      5327   1024
0000008E LEVY_SM4        HIB      4      238   0 00:00:05.12      4202    529
00000051 NETACP          HIB     10      168   0 00:00:27.90      4746     91
00000052 EVL             HIB      5      630   0 00:00:06.23     61221     40  N
00000053 REMACP          HIBO     8       --  swapped  out  --             37
00000054 DECW$SERVER_0   LEF      6    70459   0 00:07:17.37     60568   1715
00000056 LEVY            LEF      4      362   0 00:00:10.24   1098778   1069
00000058 LATACP          HIB     14       11   0 00:06:53.83     53093    209
0000005A SYMBIONT_0002   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --            110
0000009B DECW$TE_1       COM      5     1849   0 00:01:06.87     10059   3360
0000009C �Dead� Set      CUR      7      779   0 00:00:12.06      5474    373
0000009D LEVY_1          LEF      4      378   0 00:00:05.61      1902    286  S
000000E0 LEVY_2          HIB      7      419   0 00:00:00.53       323    331  S
00000064 DECW$WM_1       LEF      8       71   0 00:01:42.44      7174   1003
Ezwind� show sys
VAX/VMS V5.4  on node EZWIND  16-OCT-1990 08:08:33.48   Uptime  2 10:22:42
  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts Ph.Mem
00000041 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:00:08.69         0      0
00000084 LEVY_SM1        LEF      4      296   0 00:02:08.73      8941   1308
00000045 ERRFMT          HIB      8     1795   0 00:00:11.48       768     73
00000046 OPCOM           HIB      8      380   0 00:00:02.38       388    127
00000047 AUDIT_SERVER    HIB     10       67   0 00:00:01.15      1407    281
00000048 JOB_CONTROL     HIB     10     1272   0 00:00:05.73       291    218
00000049 IPCACP          HIB     10       12   0 00:00:00.14        79    136
0000004A TP_SERVER       HIB     10    14043   0 00:02:42.12     23475    128
0000004B SYMBIONT_0001   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --             89
0000008C LEVY_SM2        LEF      4      295   0 00:00:10.54      5327   1024
0000008E LEVY_SM4        HIB      4      238   0 00:00:05.12      4202    529
00000051 NETACP          HIB     10      168   0 00:00:27.90      4746     91
00000052 EVL             HIB      5      630   0 00:00:06.23     61221     40  N
00000053 REMACP          HIBO     8       --  swapped  out  --             37
00000054 DECW$SERVER_0   LEF      7    70475   0 00:07:17.50     60569   1716
00000056 LEVY            LEF      4      362   0 00:00:10.24   1098778   1069
00000058 LATACP          HIB     14       11   0 00:06:53.83     53093    209
0000005A SYMBIONT_0002   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --            110
0000009B DECW$TE_1       LEF      6     1881   0 00:01:07.19     10059   3360
0000009C �Dead� Set      CUR      4      809   0 00:00:12.28      5514    353
0000009D LEVY_1          LEF      4      378   0 00:00:05.61      1902    286  S
000000E0 LEVY_2          HIB      7      419   0 00:00:00.53       323    331  S
00000064 DECW$WM_1       LEF      8       71   0 00:01:42.44      7174   1003
Ezwind� show sys
VAX/VMS V5.4  on node EZWIND  16-OCT-1990 08:08:34.29   Uptime  2 10:22:42
  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts Ph.Mem
00000041 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:00:08.69         0      0
00000084 LEVY_SM1        LEF      4      296   0 00:02:08.73      8941   1308
00000045 ERRFMT          HIB      8     1795   0 00:00:11.48       768     73
00000046 OPCOM           HIB      8      380   0 00:00:02.38       388    127
00000047 AUDIT_SERVER    HIB     10       67   0 00:00:01.15      1407    281
00000048 JOB_CONTROL     HIB     10     1272   0 00:00:05.73       291    218
00000049 IPCACP          HIB     10       12   0 00:00:00.14        79    136
0000004A TP_SERVER       HIB     10    14043   0 00:02:42.12     23475    128
0000004B SYMBIONT_0001   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --             89
0000008C LEVY_SM2        LEF      4      295   0 00:00:10.54      5327   1024
0000008E LEVY_SM4        HIB      4      238   0 00:00:05.12      4202    529
00000051 NETACP          HIB     10      168   0 00:00:27.90      4746     91
00000052 EVL             HIB      5      630   0 00:00:06.23     61221     40  N
00000053 REMACP          HIBO     8       --  swapped  out  --             37
00000054 DECW$SERVER_0   LEF      7    70484   0 00:07:17.59     60570   1717
00000056 LEVY            LEF      4      362   0 00:00:10.24   1098778   1069
00000058 LATACP          HIB     14       11   0 00:06:53.83     53093    209
0000005A SYMBIONT_0002   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --            110
0000009B DECW$TE_1       COM      5     1910   0 00:01:07.50     10061   3360
0000009C �Dead� Set      CUR      7      839   0 00:00:12.55      5577    318
0000009D LEVY_1          LEF      4      378   0 00:00:05.61      1902    286  S
000000E0 LEVY_2          HIB      7      419   0 00:00:00.53       323    331  S
00000064 DECW$WM_1       LEF      8       71   0 00:01:42.44      7174   1003
Ezwind�
Ezwind� show sys
VAX/VMS V5.4  on node EZWIND  16-OCT-1990 08:08:35.38   Uptime  2 10:22:44
  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts Ph.Mem
00000041 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:00:08.69         0      0
00000084 LEVY_SM1        LEF      4      296   0 00:02:08.73      8941   1308
00000045 ERRFMT          HIB      8     1795   0 00:00:11.48       768     73
00000046 OPCOM           HIB      8      380   0 00:00:02.38       388    127
00000047 AUDIT_SERVER    HIB     10       67   0 00:00:01.15      1407    281
00000048 JOB_CONTROL     HIB     10     1272   0 00:00:05.73       291    218
00000049 IPCACP          HIB     10       12   0 00:00:00.14        79    136
0000004A TP_SERVER       HIB     10    14043   0 00:02:42.12     23475    128
0000004B SYMBIONT_0001   HIBO     4       --  swapped  out  --             89
0000008C LEVY_SM2        LEF      4      295   0 00:00:10.54      5327   1024
0000008E LEVY_SM4        HIB      4      238   0 00:00:05.12      4202    529
00000051 NETACP          HIB     10      168   0 00:00:27.90      4746     91
00000052 EVL             HIB      5      630   0 00:00:06.23     61221     
40  N

00000053 









REMACP          




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--             37

00000054 


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7    


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60571   1718

00000056 











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4      


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1098778   1069

00000058 









LATACP          




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0000005A 


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0000009B 






DECW$TE_1       





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1944   
0 




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10062   3360

0000009C 
�Dead� 





Set      





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4      


870   
0 





00:00:12.77      



5624    322

0000009D 









LEVY_1          





LEF      





4      


378   
0 





00:00:05.61      



1902    

286  S

000000E0 









LEVY_2          





HIB      





7      


419   
0 






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323    

331  S

00000064 






DECW$WM_1       





LEF      






8       


71   
0 





00:01:42.44      


7174   1003

Ezwind� 
show sys

VAX/VMS 

V5.4  
on 
node 

EZWIND  
16-OCT-1990 


08:08:36.34   

Uptime  
2 10:22:44


  



Pid    
Process 



Name    

State  





Pri      






I/O       






CPU       
Page 
flts Ph.Mem

00000041 








SWAPPER         




HIB     







16        


0   
0 








00:00:08.69         





0      0

00000084 







LEVY_SM1        





LEF      





4      


296   
0 





00:02:08.73      


8941   1308

00000045 









ERRFMT          





HIB      




8     


1795   
0 






00:00:11.48       




768     73

00000046 










OPCOM           





HIB      





8      


380   
0 






00:00:02.38       



388    127

00000047 



AUDIT_SERVER    




HIB     






10       


67   
0 





00:00:01.15      



1407    281

00000048 




JOB_CONTROL     




HIB     




10     


1272   
0 






00:00:05.73       



291    218

00000049 









IPCACP          




HIB     






10       


12   
0 







00:00:00.14        



79    136

0000004A 






TP_SERVER       




HIB     



10    


14043   
0 




00:02:42.12     



23475    128

0000004B 


SYMBIONT_0001   




HIBO     






4       

--  

swapped  

out  












--             89

0000008C 







LEVY_SM2        





LEF      





4      


295   
0 





00:00:10.54      


5327   1024

0000008E 







LEVY_SM4        





HIB      





4      


238   
0 





00:00:05.12      



4202    529

00000051 









NETACP          




HIB     





10      


168   
0 





00:00:27.90      




4746     91

00000052 












EVL             





HIB      





5      


630   
0 




00:00:06.23     




61221     

40  N

00000053 









REMACP          




HIBO     






8       

--  

swapped  

out  












--             37

00000054 


DECW$SERVER_0   





LEF      



7    


70512   
0 




00:07:17.88     


60571   1718

00000056 











LEVY            





LEF      





4      


362   
0 


00:00:10.24   


1098778   1069

00000058 









LATACP          




HIB     






14       


11   
0 




00:06:53.83     



53093    209

0000005A 


SYMBIONT_0002   




HIBO     

4       --  swapped  out  --            110
0000009B DECW$TE_1       LEF      5     1974   0 00:01:08.20     10062   3360
0000009C �Dead� Set      CUR      4      900   0 00:00:13.00      5662    321
0000009D LEVY_1          LEF      4      378   0 00:00:05.61      1902    286  S
000000E0 LEVY_2          HIB      7      419   0 00:00:00.53       323    331  S
00000064 DECW$WM_1       LEF      8       71   0 00:01:42.44      7174   1003
Ezwind�
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3473.1Being worked onMINIM::BAYJim CNF ENTP PPASEL DECtermTue Oct 16 1990 13:595
    This problem has been reported to DECterm via the QAR system and is
    under investigation.
    
    Jim
    
3473.2Thanks for the infoNECSC::LEVYThe songs that we hear are just songs of our ownTue Oct 16 1990 14:136
Thanks!

Could you disclose which QAR number it is so that we can keep track of the 
progress?

	- Dave_who_wasn't_sure_whose_problem_it_was
3473.3yes, easy to show DECterm cut-paste corruption with much less dataLEVEL::OSMANsee HANNAH::IGLOO$:[OSMAN]ERIC.VT240Tue Oct 16 1990 17:0212
Yes, this would be wonderful to fix, as right now it's
all too easy to get corrupted data on DECterm during
copy-and-paste.

For example, if you cut just 10 or so lines from somewhere
and try to paste them in an EMACS buffer, the corruption
happens.

Thanks.

/Eric
3473.4MINIM::BAYJim CNF ENTP PPASEL DECtermWed Oct 17 1990 13:575
    There are several QARs that deal with this.  I will make a note to
    reply here when this is fixed.
    
    Jim