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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

3157.0. "EVE editor and fonts" by WNOU02::JUNG (The Dragon Never Sleeps) Wed Aug 01 1990 10:39

I have a customer who is running PC DECwindows. He is using the EVE DECwindows
editor and would like to use a smaller font. Is there anyway that a different
font could be used with the EVE DECwindows editor?

				Cheers,

				Randy
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3157.1Me too!NEWVAX::BCASTRORobert M.Wed Nov 07 1990 12:445
    I have a customer making the same request.
    
    He seems to think the user should have the option to list and select
    the fonts he wishes in whatever DECwindows' application DEC provides
    with the VMS system.
3157.2Suggestion notedSTAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, VMS DevelopmentWed Nov 07 1990 13:4414
The customer is right, it is an obvious extension to all of our
applications to be able to customize the fonts.  Unfortunately,
all the effort for DECwindows V3 went into converting to Motif,
so don't expect anything in the near future.

However, there is perhaps a workaround in DECwindows V3.  The
V3 server will support font alias files that will allow the
system manager to "alias" fonts from one name to another.  The
font alias file could be used to map an entire set of fonts to
another set of fonts.  For example, one could map all the 10
point fonts to 12 point, 12 point to 14 point, etc., and presto,
every single application will be using a larger font!  The
drawback of course is that no exceptions can be made, every
application will use the re-mapped fonts unconditionally.
3157.3LESLIE::LESLIEAndy LeslieWed Nov 07 1990 14:3213
>        <<< Note 3157.2 by STAR::VATNE "Peter Vatne, VMS Development" >>>
>Unfortunately,
>all the effort for DECwindows V3 went into converting to Motif,
>so don't expect anything in the near future.
    
    ...like user-friendliness? This is a song sung FAR too often - if we
    can't do a job properly, why bother in producing half of a good
    product?
    
    (Yes I'm in a bad mood today)
    
    
    /andy/
3157.4These are the factsSTAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, VMS DevelopmentThu Nov 08 1990 17:1226
>    ...like user-friendliness? This is a song sung FAR too often - if we
>    can't do a job properly, why bother in producing half of a good
>    product?
 
We in engineering don't like the situation any better than you do.
Unfortunately, we have a limited headcount.  When it came to deciding
what to put into DECwindows V3, the choices were slim:

1)  Add user-friendliness and all sorts of good features

or

2)  Convert to Motif

I'm oversimplifying, but that was the main gist of things.  We felt
that if we didn't convert to Motif, then we definitely didn't have
a product that could compete.  With Motif, at least we could stay
in the game another round.  I don't think our competition's products
are any more friendly than ours.  It is true that they at least
document the resource files, which allow customers to fool around
with things.  The central question then is, does documenting how
to change things in resource files constitute "user-friendliness"?

I don't know the answer to that last question.  We would certainly
like to hear opinions from the field as to what customers consider
as user-friedliness.
3157.5LESLIE::LESLIEAndy LeslieThu Nov 08 1990 17:2310
    Yes I know the facts in this case. They are the facts based upon the
    allocation of resources and time-to-market  that virtually made it
    impossible to deliver a complete product to our customer base - in
    Version 3 this is just plain daft.
    
    My opinion is that we (DEC) must get our act together, or we won't be
    in business in 1995. And *that* is a fact.
    
    
    /andy/
3157.6STAR::MCLEMANJeff McLeman, VMS developmentFri Nov 09 1990 07:232
    So Andy, your going to come over and help, right? :-)
    
3157.7Given intern'l relo'....LESLIE::LESLIEAndy LeslieFri Nov 09 1990 10:157
    Jeff,
    
    	  yes, I'd love to. If you have an open req. then I'll apply for it
    like a shot and be there within a month.
    
    
    /andy/