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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

3149.0. "DECwindows CHARACTERIZATION!" by DPDMAI::STEINER () Mon Jul 30 1990 18:13

    Does the DECwindows Program Office plan to publish the results of its
    Characterization study??
    
    We in the field desperately need curves showing use of resources for
    typical applications.  I'm thinking here of curves showing client and
    server resources being used, (memory, cpu, net, mass storage perhaps),
    for low imaging content up to high imaging content.
    
    From forms like applications to highly interactive graphical
    applications.  And from Vaxstations, Decstations to VT1000's with mixes
    of clients and server.
    
    Please don't shrug your shoulders and answer me that my mileage may
    vary.  We all know that.  But in order to help our customers configure
    the most cost effective systems, we have to be able to guide them in
    the right direction.
    
    If we are looking at large customers, then cost means everything from
    cables for networking to computer hardware and personnel cost.
    Thanks for your help... Phil
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3149.1who told you that?4GL::VANNOYJake VanNoyWed Aug 01 1990 00:0012
    Who told you the DECwindows Program Office was doing a characterization
    study?  Being one of the 3 people here in the DWPO, there is a pretty
    good chance I would know that such a thing was happening, and no one
    has told me... ;-)
    
    There were a study done by VMS which I honestly don't remember whether
    it was published or not.  There was a more recent study sponsored by
    the VT1000 group, and I believe I have seen that published.  The VT1000
    notesfile is probably a good place to look.  A network utilization
    study done in VMS was just published in the DEC Technical Journal issue
    on DECwindows.
    
3149.2Performance Reports, but still need moreDPDMAI::STEINERTue Aug 07 1990 14:1523
    RE :-)
    Well, it's sort of a question of viewpoint, or, which turf do you want
    to defend.  
    
    The VT1000 people are not very fond of reports that claim high overhead
    generated on the X-Client by X-Sessions to the X-Server with a VT1000.
    
    The X-Station people are not very fond of the reports that claim
    similar overhead for ANY X-Client session regardless of X-Server node
    configuration, bur rather depending on the interactivity and image
    content of the X-Session.
    
    A Report that I've read is from Paul Antoniescu in the DECWINDOWS_5W
    notes file, which claims .5VUP an 2-3MB load per DECwrite session.  This
    report was done by the Steve Bennett, LES Systems Engineering System 
    Characterization Group.  For high graphics content the load could be many 
    times the above requirement.
    
    Another report was on the VT1000 positioning by the Internal Product
    Strategies Group.
    
    Yet another article was by John Buford, where similar or even more
    requirements were found to be necessary.