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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

3041.0. "vms => sun display problems" by CSC32::B_BRADACH () Thu Jul 05 1990 17:34

    I have a customer who is attempting to run a decwindows ootb
    application from VMS to display on a SUN (4.1).  He has xlan (sp?)
    network software. He can telnet and ftp just fine. However, 
    the decwindows part doesn't work.  Here is the scenario:
    1.  He logs into the Sun
    2.  Telnet to the vms system
    3.  set display/create/node=SUN/transport=tcpip
    4.  show display => gives normal output
    5.  run xclock  => gets xtoolkit error "can't open display"
    
    I am not sure what I can tell him to try.  The VMS system does NOT have
    a display attached to it, so I can't have him try to display from the
    SUN to the VMS system.  
    
    Also, I am not really sure what I should have him check.  If anyone has
    any ideas at all I would really appreciate it.
    
    bernie
    csc/cs
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3041.1/tran=tcpip is only for UCXSTAR::ORGOVANVince OrgovanThu Jul 05 1990 19:3919
    The DECwindows supplied TCP/IP transport with VMS V5.3 works
    only with DEC's Ultrix Connection (UCX) product. Running
    DECwindows applications with third party TCP/IP packages is
    possible, provided that the third party also supplies a 
    DECwindows transport image that maps the DECwindows read
    and write requests into calls for their private TCP/IP
    programming interface. 
    
    I know that Wollongong ships a DECwindows TCP/IP module 
    with their WIN/TCP product. To use it, you do something like
    
    	$ set display/create/node=SUN/transport=wintcp
    
    which causes their decw$transport_wintcp.exe image to be
    activated. I don't know whether Excelan ships a DECwindows
    transport with their product or not. 
    
    So your customer either needs to talk to the Excelan folks
    or use UCX.
3041.2thanks for the explanationCSC32::B_BRADACHFri Jul 06 1990 13:365
    Thanks for the quick response, I appreciate the explanation
    I will relay this to customer.
    
    bernie
    csc/cs
3041.3sun => vms display problemsLEXIS::JJOHNSONBadges?!? We don't need no stinkin badges!Tue Jul 17 1990 14:3729
    Hi,

    I was at a customer site last week to install a VAX 4000.  They are
    primarily a U*X shop with both Sun's and DECstations.

    We were running UCX V1.2 on the 4000 and two VS3100's clustered
    togather.

    We had very little problem getting DECwindows applications to display
    on the Sun's but we had no luck at all trying to get Sun applications
    to come up on the VAXstations.  We also couldn't get the DS3100 to
    display on the VS3100, they all came back with

      xtoolkit error "can't open display"

    Both sides could telnet and ftp to each other.  We tried all kinds of
    security settings in the customize security box from node username ,
    node uid and finally * * to no avail.  Note we were listing tcpip as the
    transport.  Both sides had each others node and address in the hosts
    file.

    Their X expert seems to think that the VMS systems are not listening on
    port 6000 which as he said was the port used by default for
    applications.  They tried to telnet through port 6000 and could not but
    they could telnet through port 23 (telnet's default).

    Any help and/or suggestions would be appreciated.

    Jim
3041.4You must create DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.COMSTAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, VMS DevelopmentTue Jul 17 1990 15:096
I believe you are missing the step where you define the transports
that the server will listen on.  Take a look a the directions in:

    SYS$MANAGER:DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE

This is all explained in the VMS V5.3 Installation Guide.
3041.5Right & ThanksLEXIS::JJOHNSONBadges?!? We don't need no stinkin badges!Thu Jul 19 1990 16:1512
    Hi,

    You are/were exactly correct.

    All we had was the bookreader CD and all I could find were the CPU
    specific installation guides which didn't have any DECwindows
    customization info.  I appreciate your time.

    Thanks,
    
    Jim