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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2903.0. "Modified system defaults for FileVue??" by CSC32::D_COHN (Semiprodigious) Fri Jun 08 1990 17:30

	I have a customer who is running V5.3 of VMS (DECWindows V2.0) and 
wants to be custome FileVue in such a way that any DECWindow user who invokes 
FileVue will have only a Title and Menu Bar - no window!  

	First, is this customization possible?  Second, given that FileVue is 
now using DECW$SYTEM_DEFAULTS:VUE$MASTER.UID how does one go about setting up 
"system wide defaults" for FileVue?

Thanks,

Dennis
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2903.1WHY ??GSRC::WESTHelp stamp out and abolish redundancy !Mon Jun 11 1990 10:147
  I would like to be so bold as to ask WHY the customer wants this.  There
may be other alternatives since I believe FileVue is unmodifiable in this
respect.

					-=> Jim <=-

2903.2yes can doDECWIN::KLEINMon Jun 11 1990 12:1063
>	I have a customer who is running V5.3 of VMS (DECWindows V2.0) and 
>wants to be custome FileVue in such a way that any DECWindow user who invokes 
>FileVue will have only a Title and Menu Bar - no window!  
>
>	First, is this customization possible?  Second, given that FileVue is 
>now using DECW$SYTEM_DEFAULTS:VUE$MASTER.UID how does one go about setting up 
>"system wide defaults" for FileVue?

No problem.

The basic approach is to set up a public profile file containing a Startup
view.  This Startup view should contain saved window size settings for
a FileView window so small that only the title bar and menu bar shog.
Here's a step-by-step:

(1) Set up logical names so that a new profile file will be created.  This
profile file will later be installed as a Public Profile File so that it
will be visible to all (or a subset) of the users on the system.
Go to a DECterm window and:

	$define/user vue$profile small_window.vue$dat
	$mcr vue$master

(2) FileView will come up (but it won't know about any of your previously
saved customizations - for this session only you will be creating a new
profile file).

(3) Pull down Customize/SaveView to get the SaveView dialog box.

(4) Resize and reposition the FileView window the way you want it.  At the
same time, you can reconfigure the menubar, for example you may want to
remove the Customize menu from the menubar, etc.

(5) In the SaveView dialog box, turn the Directory toggle OFF (and leave
all the others ON).  We do this so that each user will come up in their
own login directory - not in yours!  All aspects other than the default
directory will be saved in this new Startup view.

(6) Quit from FileView.  You should now have a file called small_window.vue$dat
in your current (or login) directory.

(7) Now, you have to decide how widely you want this new Startup view to
apply.  For example, should it apply to all users in the cluster, all
users in a particular group, just a selected list of users, or what?
You use a combination of file placement and/or logical name search lists
to set up the right environment.

By placing small_window.vue$dat in [vue$library.user] (on the system disk),
it will automatically be seen by all FileView users.  Anyone who has not
already saved their own (private) Startup view will get your new one by
default.

By placing small_window.vue$dat in some other public directory, you can
cause certain users to load it by defining the following logical name
before they run FileView.  This can be done in any of a number of places,
including their login.com or the common DECwindows startup file,
DECW$SYLOGIN.COM.

	$define vue$public_profile pub$disk:[pub.vue$library],vue$library

This is all discussed to some detail in the BULOVA::FileView notes file.

-steve-
2903.3Answering questions with questions?CSC32::D_COHNSemiprodigiousMon Jun 11 1990 12:219
	First, let's take this in the "general" sense...  If one needed to 
modify FileVue in the way that was stated in ".0" can it been done outside of 
modifying the source code?  Second,  given that the "SYSTEM DEFAULTS" for 
FileVue are in ".UID" format I presume that setting up system wide defaults for 
FileVue would, for the current release, not be "doable"?  Thirdly, after four
years of working in the CSC I have found that "WHY" only gives you grey 
hair and peptic ulcers meaning - "its not ours to question WHY..." 

Dennis
2903.4Questioning question's answers?DECWIN::KLEINMon Jun 11 1990 15:5212
>              <<< Note 2903.3 by CSC32::D_COHN "Semiprodigious" >>>
>                    -< Answering questions with questions? >-

Did you miss my reply (.-2) ?

FileView system defaults are NOT in UID file format, they are in
.VUE$DAT file format.  And they are fully customizable by the end-user
and/or system manager.

I think there must be a disconnect here.

-steve-