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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2745.0. "DECWINDOWS 5.2 and TCS" by UTRTSC::MACKRILL (BRIAN@DIGITAL@ALL-IN-1@UTRECHT) Thu May 10 1990 11:15

    Hello,
    
    A customer is running DECwindows and VMS  version 5.2 on a VAXstation
    3100. User is running ALL-IN-1, and after loading the Technical
    Character set with the A1WPSPLUS_LOGIN.COM, attempts to access some
    technical characters in his WPS-PLUS editor. (F11 F etc)
    Problem:
     
    The technical character appears on the screen, but is positioned halway
    down towards the next line, as if sub-scripted. One character tested
    was the Dutch Florin which is the "escape key and the "f" key.
    
    I compared all settings for his Decterm with mine, and set them the same.
    
    The version I have access to is V5.3. This does not experience the same
    problem and works fine.
    
    Any ideas ?
    
    Many thanks,
    
    Brian
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2745.1HANNAH::MESSENGERBob MessengerThu May 10 1990 11:3213
Re: .0

It sounds like it could either be a bug in DECterm or a problem with the font.
However, I don't remember anyone else reporting this.

Are these characters normal or double high?  I fixed a bug in DECterm V1 where
double high characters didn't use the right baseline.

Here's something to try: copy the V5.2 font to the V5.3 system and see if you
still get the problem.  (Copying the V5.3 font to the V5.2 system won't work,
because DECterm V1 can't handle TCS in V2-style fonts).

				-- Bob
2745.2DECterm fontsUTRTSC::MACKRILLBRIAN@DIGITAL@ALL-IN-1@UTRECHTFri May 11 1990 05:5812
    Thanks for the info Bob...
    
    The customer informs me that double high and normal both experience the
    problem. I am attempting to get hold of a 5.2 system at the moment, to
    try your other idea. Not knowing much about DECterm ot Windows, are there
    specific font files for the default DECterm window and how does one 
    identify which ones are being used ?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Brian
2745.3DECterm on VMS 5.2 and TCSUTRTSC::MACKRILLBRIAN@DIGITAL@ALL-IN-1@UTRECHTFri May 11 1990 10:5212
    re. 2745...
    
    We managed to find a VMS v5.2 version with windows and were able to
    reproduce the problem with the technical characters droping down. We
    found that doing a Ctrl W to refresh the screen, would fix things up.
    
    Thanks for your help Bob,
    
    Cheers
    
    Brian
2745.4HANNAH::MESSENGERBob MessengerFri May 11 1990 12:0417
Re: .3

The terminal fonts are listed in Appendix D of the Guide to Xlib Programming,
although you'll still have the problem of figuring out what fonts are used
under what circumstances.

Assuming: little, normal (not condensed), single width, not bold, on a 75 dpi
system, the DECtech font would be

DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.75DPI]TERMINAL_DECTECH14.DECW$FONT

I was suggesting that you could temporarily copy this font from a V5.2 system
to the DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYSFONT.DECW.USER_75DPI] directory on the V5.3 system
(and then restart DECwindows) in order to find out if the problem was in the
V5.2 DECterm or the V5.2 font.

				-- Bob
2745.5HANNAH::MESSENGERBob MessengerFri May 11 1990 12:088
Re: .4

If you copy the TERMINAL_DECTECH14.DECW$FONT file as I suggested, you'll also
need to copy TERMINAL14.DECW$FONT.  DECterm V2 looks at the base font in a
font set to decide if it's dealing with a V1 or V2 font encoding, the ISO Latin
1 and DECtech fonts should either both be V1 or both be V2.

				-- Bob