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| 2395.1 | | FEGPX::SWEENEY | Patrick Sweeney in Hong Kong | Tue Mar 06 1990 07:26 | 11 |
| Large fonts are another interest of mine. Large fonts can come from
at least three places:
(1) Using unsupported tools (qv the EXAMPLES conference), create new
BDF/XLFD files, compile them, etc. use them
(2) Using supported XDPS (display PostScript), which if I had the time,
I'd love to try myself
(3) Look at the MIT X11 R4 distribution for some unsupported BDF files.
I've loaded R3 and if I were in New York, I'd load R4.
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| 2395.2 | Bigger fonts are not easy | STAR::VATNE | Peter Vatne, VMS Development | Tue Mar 06 1990 13:22 | 11 |
| There are no X calls to scale fonts to a larger size, and the largest font size
available with DECwindows is 24 point. The MIT X11 R4 distribution contains
new font files, but none of them are bigger than 24 point, either.
Display PostScript would be the easiest way to get bigger fonts, but that
doesn't meet your requirements of "plain vanilla X windows calls". You
could make your own font files as Patrick Sweeney suggests, but then your
demo would only work with systems that have your fonts installed.
My question to you is, is the C program that you are writing the demo itself,
or does the C program demo something that needs large characters?
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| 2395.3 | DECwrite ... ? | VOGON::DRUMGOOLE | Third Party Applications Group | Tue Mar 06 1990 13:34 | 5 |
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DECwrite seems to supply some fairly large fonts. Maybe you could use the
fonts from that kit. Check out queen::decwrite for more info.
Joe.
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| 2395.4 | | DAVIS::peter | | Tue Mar 06 1990 15:38 | 4 |
| DECwrite only uses the standard DECwindows fonts. For point sizes
larger than 24, DECwrite scales the font bitmaps using image services routines.
Future versions of DECwrite may possibly use Display PostScript.
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| 2395.5 | careful with your use of DPS | SMURF::HOFFMAN | anywhere in the universe | Wed Mar 07 1990 13:30 | 21 |
| There are legal restrictions on the use of Display PostScript
for creating fonts or bitmap images. However, I have not yet obtained
a clear explanation of exactly what the restrictions mean or what problems
are being solved.
As an engineer without legal training, I will not attempt to interpret
the words. Instead, I would encourage people to ascertain what the rules
are and how they apply. In ULTRIXland, Dave Pushee is the contact.
Here's an instance (from the UWS V2.2 and V4.0 SPD):
7. The software licensed hereunder is restricted to use to generate
screen displays on a single Licensed System having a screen resolution of
less than 150 dots/per/inch. Licensee agrees not to make use of the
software, directly or indirectly, to print bitmap images with print
resolutions of 150 dots/per/inch or greater, or to generate Fonts or
Typefaces for use other than with the Licensed System. Any failure of
Licensee to comply with this provision is a material breach of this End
User Agreement.
John
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| 2395.6 | Don't Panic! | DECWIN::FISHER | Burns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23 | Wed Mar 07 1990 17:51 | 24 |
| Jeez, John, we don't need to discourage people from using DPS!
As one who was in on the negotiations (but also not a lawyer), I know
that the intent of the clause is that you are not allowed try to use
DPS to steal the fonts for use on a laser-printer. For example, if
you generated all the characters of NewCenturySchoolbook (for example)
on a 100DPI screen at 40 point, and then grabbed the bits, stuck them
into a library, and used them to convert Ascii text into bitmaps for
printing on a 400DPI el-cheapo laser printer, that would be breaking
the intent of the contract.
If you do a print screen of a DECwrite-using-DPS page and happen to
print it on a 400 DPI printer, that is in accordnace with the intent
of the contract.
The problem being solved is that the font designers give Adobe (and
thru them, us) the fonts for cheaper on DPS than on a high-quality
laser printer, because they are that much less functional. If someone
buys DPS and an El-Cheapo 1-font laser printer to avoid paying the
royalty for good laser-printer fonts, the font designers loose revenue.
That is what they are trying to prevent.
Burns
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| 2395.7 | now it's much clearer | SMURF::HOFFMAN | anywhere in the universe | Fri Mar 09 1990 10:29 | 9 |
| re .6
Thanks for the clarification Burns. I had asked a number of people
about this without getting much insight. For some reason, the words
in the restriction seemed to imply that it was illegal to use
printscreen for any DPS-created image on any of our supported
laser printers (all of which happen to exceed 150 dpi of print resolution.)
John
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