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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2378.0. "INFO on VMS DECwindows Manager" by AYOV29::KMCLELLAN (Kenny) Thu Mar 01 1990 10:24

    Can anybody give me any details regarding the following :-

    I am looking the a version of the VMS DW Manager that allows you to :-

       - Grabbing a window on any part of the border
       - Move the application window off the top of the screen

    I have a VS3100 running under VMS5.3 with V2.0 of DECwindows.

    MANY thanks in advance.
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2378.1Motif's what you wantGOLLY::MILLERI need 'Deeper Understanding'Thu Mar 01 1990 20:1212
>        - Grabbing a window on any part of the border
>        - Move the application window off the top of the screen
    
    Don't quite know what you mean on the first but the second's definitely
    covered.
    
    MWM is definitely the way to go.  Check out SUBWAY::MOTIF Notes File
    for the details.
    
    Regards,
    
    	 	== ken miller ==
2378.2HP window manager does it, too.BOMBE::MOOREEat or be eatenThu Mar 01 1990 22:211
    
2378.3here's two pointersCVG::PETTENGILLmulpFri Mar 02 1990 04:0011
Based on your description you are looking for the window manager supplied with
the PC DECwindows support.  See the PCDECWINDOWS conference for info on its
availability.  A version from about a year ago is available on CVG:
dir cvg""::sys$system:pcx$winmgr

Directory CVG""::SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]

PCX$WINMGR.EXE;1        124  23-FEB-1989 15:01:24.00

You're welcome to it, but I can't vouch for it on V5.3 aka DW V2.

2378.4Window manager info again?AYOU77::KMCLELLANKennyFri Mar 02 1990 05:4731
Thanks for your input but unfortunately this is not doing what I ideally
    want for my users.

    What I really need is ( apoligies for any misinterpretation I may
    have given ) :-

    ---------------------------------------------------
    |BANNER                                           |
    --------------------------------------------------
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
   *|                                                 |
    |                                                 |*
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    --------------------------------------------------
                     *

    What I need is to be able to grab the window at any
    part and drag it without positioning the pointer
    on the banner e.g position the pointer at the points
    marked * and dragging the window.

    thanks once again for your efforts.

    kenny
    
2378.5MwmSTAR::CYPRYCHFri Mar 02 1990 11:063
    You still may be able to use MWM if you customize
    your button definitions for the frame... I havent
    tried it,  but it may be worth the investigation.
2378.6GOLLY::MILLERI need 'Deeper Understanding'Fri Mar 02 1990 17:3726
    ---------------------------------------------------
    |BANNER                                           |
    --------------------------------------------------
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
   *|                                                 |
    |                                                 |*
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    |                                                 |
    --------------------------------------------------
                     *

If you want a banner *and* you want to be able to grab & move the 
window from all '*' points above, your two choices are Motif (MWM)
and HP (HPWM).  I stopped using HPWM with 5.2, so I can't help you
with a pointer there.  But with some minor Xdefaults/RC customization,
both WM's will do this for you.   The PCX$WINMGR doesn't have a
banner if I recall.

Regards,

              == ken miller ==
2378.7Ok, I tried the PCX$WINMGR and here's a picture - note the windows moved off the top and the wide bordersCVG::PETTENGILLmulpSat Mar 03 1990 01:28217
2378.8BTW, you probably won't be able to appreciate the previous note without...CVG::PETTENGILLmulpSat Mar 03 1990 01:372
the PCX$WINMGR or perhaps MWM since you need to expand the window to larger
than the size of the screen...