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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2364.0. "DECwindows fonts and the MIT X11R4 server" by FORTY2::AMOS (Rich Amos @REO - DTN: 830 4770) Tue Feb 27 1990 14:22

Hi,

I've just built the MIT server from the X11R4 distribution and it's quite neat, however,
some DECwindows applications (notably DECterms) use fonts which have not been supplied
by MIT. Is there any way for me to make the MIT server load the DECwindows fonts?

Many thanks in advance,

Rich Amos

P.S. This note is cross-posted in the X conference
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2364.1HKOVC::TERENCEFrom Middlesex, UWOTue Feb 27 1990 20:216
    Are you using VMS DECwindows? Can I have a copy of your MIT X11R4
    server?
    
    Thanx in advance
    
    -Terry
2364.2More information...FORTY2::AMOSRich Amos @REO - DTN: 830 4770Wed Feb 28 1990 06:0227
Hello again,

After reading my base note in the cold light of day, I realise that it's a bit short on
information, so here goes:-

I built the R4 server on a VAXstation 3500 running ULTRIX V3.1 (I first de-installed *all*
of the DECwindows subsets). The VAXstation has a 4-plane greyscale video board. The server
works O.K. I copied the necessary images to run a DECterm from another ULTRIX V3.1 
machine and cranked one up. I got the following error messages

X Toolkit Warning: Cannot convert string "-*-MENU-MEDIUM-R-Normal--*-120-*-*-P-*-ISO
8859-1" to type FontList, using fixed font
Can't find font -*-Terminal-*-*-*--*-180-*-*-*-*-*-*
Can't find font -*-Terminal-*-*-*--*-180-*-*-*-*-*-*
Can't find font -*-Terminal-Medium-*-Narrow--*-140-*-*-*-*-*-1

The DECterm does come up O.K. though and is reasonably usable. I copied the MENU and
terminal fonts from a V3.1 machine and tried to make the server look for them on startup (
I renamed them from *.dwf to *.snf). This did not work. I ran mkfontdir in the directory
containing the new fonts but it said that the fonts were of an invalid format.

Any suggestions as to how I can install the fonts so that the server will load 
them?

Many thanks,

Rich Amos.
2364.3USENET info...temporary fixFUEL::grahamif ya want home cookin, stay homeFri Mar 02 1990 10:1036
The following USENET article came from someone in a situation similar
to the base noter.  We are going to get a lot of flack with our fonts
policy.  It looks like a severe setback for X interoperability.

Kris...
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Article 18673 of comp.windows.x
Path: riscy.dec.com!shlump.nac.dec.com!decuac!decwrl!lll-winken!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!rpi!batcomputer!riley
From: [email protected] (Daniel S. Riley)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: DEC fonts (Re: Unix X servers that can use Decnet)
Summary: frivolous comments about DEC fonts.
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 5 Feb 90 19:06:05 GMT
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected] (Daniel S. Riley)
Organization: Cornell Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY
Lines: 13

In article <[email protected]> [email protected] (David Jones) writes:
>I think a more important question than whether the server supports DECnet or
>not is whether the server has the fonts that DEC uses for its DECwindows
>applications.  

Actually, I like the DEC applications better without the DEC fonts.  I'm
running MIT X11R4 on my DECstation, with the DEC menu font aliased to
times_roman12.  All the DEC applications run (including the VAX/VMS ones
over DECnet), and I think they look better than they did when I was running
the DEC server with all the DEC fonts.

-Dan Riley ([email protected], cornell!batcomputer!riley)
-Wilson Lab, Cornell University