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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2111.0. "Graphics packages queries" by BAHTAT::IS (The Uninvited Guest...) Tue Jan 23 1990 08:55

    
    We have recently updated our VAX 3500 to Dec-windows, Meaning that we
    cannot run SIGHT on the system anymore.
    
    We require a program, like sight, that we can install on our system,
    that will do the same quality or better pictures than sight.
    
    Please write back as soon as possible, All help will be appreciated.
    
    many thanks
    
    Simon Richardson (Information Services @LZO)
    


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2111.5HELP ME .........BAHTAT::ISThe Uninvited Guest...Wed Jan 24 1990 07:049
    DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY DECENT GRAPHICS PACKAGES THAT CAN BE RUN UNDER
    DECWINDOWS.. IF SO PLEASE TELL ME THE NAME AND LOCATION IF POSSIBLE.
    
    MANY THANKS
    
    SIMON RICHARDSON (INFORMATION SERVICES @LZO)
    


2111.6RAGSOLDTMR::TEELUCKSINGHWed Jan 24 1990 08:507
    RAGS - developed by CUP Engineering..
    
    (see the notes file VAXUUM::DOC_GRAPHICS)
    
    -Ken


2111.7KONING::KONINGNI1D @FN42eqWed Jan 24 1990 11:515
DECwrite.

	paul


2111.8QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centWed Jan 24 1990 12:129
A title of "HELP ME..." is not terribly informative.

I'm not sure what kind of "graphics package" is being asked for.  It might
be a graphics editor such as has been suggested, or perhaps a set of
callable routines such as GKS or PHIGS.  Perhaps Simon can elaborate?

			Steve


2111.1UISX, or ... DAVIS::peterTue Jan 23 1990 09:5117
You could install the FT version of UISX ... essentially UIS running on
top of DECwindows.  This should allow you to run SIGHT.  There is a FT
announcement elsewhere in this conference (somewhere in the last couple of weeks).

Meanwhile, other applications are being developed to fulfill the
functionality of VWS/SIGHT.  Some possibilities are DECwrite (V1
available today) and DECpresent (IFT available today).  Both of these
contain integrated graphics editors similar to VWS/SIGHT.  There are
also other packages in the works, including my own new graphics editor,
which is at least 6-9 months from internal availability.

There's also a non-DEC hack program called "IDRAW" floating around on
the network.  From what I've seen, this tool is a pretty good
replacement for VWS/SIGHT.  I don't know where to get a copy, however. 
You'll have to poke around the notesfiles.


2111.2more help...GSRC::WESTVariables don't, Constants aren'tTue Jan 23 1990 10:1918
  To find out more about some of the other products check out the conference

    CLOSET::DOC_GRAPHICS.

  If you go with a DECwindows based application then you will most likely
  want to convert existing UIS files to something else, for this I suggest
  you take a look at UTOX (UIS to X).  You can find out all about that in
  the conference

    CLOSET::UTOX.

  Hope this helps...

					-=> Jim <=-



2111.3SITBUL::KLEINSORGEBFMTue Jan 23 1990 10:5013
    
    For at least a short-term answer, check out UISX (note 2091) which
    should allow you to continue to use SIGHT under DECwindows.  We are
    still working on things, so you may have to bear with an occasional
    glitch.  Remember to do @SYS$STARTUP:SIGHT$STARTUP to define the
    logicals!
    
    Oh, I'll put a updated copy of HCUIS (render) out as well this week
    which uncouples it from UIS and allows RENDER on *any* VMS system.
    
    _Fred


2111.4SMAUG::MENDELWhat&#039;ve we done to our fair sister?Tue Jan 23 1990 13:018
    I and my associates are quite impressed with RAGS. I never used SIGHT
    much, but others tell me RAGS is better. 

    It's also very easy to include RAGS pictures into DOCUMENT.

    Kevin


2111.9LESLIE::LESLIEAndy Leslie, VMS/CSSE. NEW B1-2/5. 774 6230Fri Jan 26 1990 04:508
    
    Why place repeat notes in here?
    
    Why then delete them and make moderators work to show them again?
    
    Please don't.
    
    		- Andy Leslie
2111.10QUARK::LIONELFree advice is worth every centFri Jan 26 1990 14:174
I think the past few replies got moved from a separate note.  I know I didn't
write my response twice...

				Steve