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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2134.0. "Session Manager does not start applications Session manager does not start applications " by ADEPT::BURR (Deryl Burr DTN:226-7605 phone:(617)486-7605 Mail:LKG1-1/M06) Wed Jan 24 1990 16:53

Hi,
	Our cluster recently went from V5.2 to V5.3. So decwindows is now at
V2. Under V1 I had (Yes I admit it) edited DECW$XDEFAULTS.DAT and 
DECW$SM_GENERAL.DAT. Not supprizingly some things did not work and I have had
to throw some stuff out to get things to work. 
	I am at this  point stuck. I just can't get the session manager to
start up applications. To get FILEVIEW to work at all I had to copy 
VUE$LIBRARY:VUE$SYSTEM_PROFILE.VUE$DAT to SYS$LOGIN:VUE$PROFILE.VUE$DAT.
Once I did that I was able to customize (using the customize pulldown) VUE
AND to be able to start VUE as either a subprocess or by just running 
VUE$MASTER. (I also tired adding the calculator to the applications available
and it would not start.)
	I then tried logging out and back in, the Session Manager still does
NOT start VUE. 

Here is the error messages that I get when I look at the DECW$SM.LOG

XIO:  fatal IO error 65535  on X server "ADEPT::0.0"
      after 5787 requests (5787 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
%XLIB-F-IOERROR, xlib io error
-DECW-E-CNXABORT, connection aborted
XIO:  fatal IO error 65535  on X server "ADEPT::0.0"
      after 1325 requests (1325 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

Can you give me some idea where to go from here?

Deryl Burr
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2134.1Try something supported (not as much fun, but...)STAR::BECKPaul BeckWed Jan 24 1990 19:003
Pull down the Customize menu in your Session Manager window and start playing.
It's all there - Applications Definitions for non-standard apps, and AutoStart 
for getting them started.
2134.2Get rid of the old stuff and start anew..STAR::MFOLEYRebel Without a ClueThu Jan 25 1990 00:5211
       
       
       
       	Rename all your DECW$USER_DEFAULTS:*.DAT's to .OLD and log
       	out and log back in. Then use the Customize pulldown in
       	the Session Manager. Select the Autostart selection and
       	just click on what you want.. (FileView, DECterms, puzzle, etc..)
       	Clicking on them multiple times allows you to start up more than
       	one DECterm or FileView.
       
       						mike
2134.3ADEPT::BURRDeryl Burr DTN:226-7605 phone:(617)486-7605 Mail:LKG1-1/M06Thu Jan 25 1990 10:499
	Well I tried throwing everything out (named it .old) and I still get
the following error...

XIO:  fatal IO error 65535  on X server "ADEPT::0.0"
      after 885 requests (884 known processed) with 25 events remaining.
%XLIB-F-IOERROR, xlib io error
-DECW-E-CNXABORT, connection aborted

Deryl
2134.4STAR::MFOLEYRebel Without a ClueThu Jan 25 1990 14:105

	What values do you have for GBLSECTIONS and GBLPAGES?

							mike
2134.5Gblsections and PagesADEPT::BURRDeryl Burr DTN:226-7605 phone:(617)486-7605 Mail:LKG1-1/M06Thu Jan 25 1990 14:5536
--------------             -------   -------   -------   ------- ----  -------
GBLSECTIONS                    400       250        20      4095 Sections
SYSGEN>  SHO GBLP
Parameter Name             Current   Default   Minimum   Maximum Unit  Dynamic
--------------             -------   -------   -------   ------- ----  -------
GBLPAGES                     33700     10000       512        -1 Pages

   282 Global Sections Used,  24456/9244 Global Pages Used/Unused


To add more "data" here is a show memory
              System Memory Resources on 25-JAN-1990 14:51:01.53

Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    Modified
  Main Memory (16.00Mb)            32768        5974       25801         993

Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     Swapped
  Process Entry Slots                 60          25          35           0
  Balance Set Slots                   54          21          33           0

Fixed-Size Pool Areas (packets):   Total        Free      In Use        Size
  Small Packet (SRP) List           1614         431        1183          96
  I/O Request Packet (IRP) List     1058          51        1007         176
  Large Packet (LRP) List             39          18          21        1648

Dynamic Memory Usage (bytes):      Total        Free      In Use     Largest
  Nonpaged Dynamic Memory        1018880      105552      913328       52864
  Paged Dynamic Memory            499712      233280      266432      229840

Paging File Usage (pages):                      Free  Reservable       Total
  DISK$ADEPT_4624:[SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS;3        4496        4496        4496
  DISK$ADEPT_4624:[SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS;1       16147      -41673       39992

Of the physical pages in use, 5503 pages are permanently allocated to VMS.

deryl
2134.6Try looking at contiguous global pagesAGBEAR::HORNERA.G.Bear, Old fashion teddy bearFri Jan 26 1990 09:3110
    There were several discussions in the old notes file about the importance
    of contiguous global pages.  Sometimes the difference between free global
    pages and contiguous global pages can be great.  Your total global pages
    for a 16MB system is not that high.  Try typing the two following DCL
    commands and see how the free vs. contiguous global page values compare.

    	write sys$output f$getsyi("free_gblpages")
    	write sys$output f$getsyi("contig_gblpages")

               Dave
2134.7Contiguous pages Contiguous pages...ADEPT::BURRDeryl Burr DTN:226-7605 phone:(617)486-7605 Mail:LKG1-1/M06Fri Jan 26 1990 13:0011
Ok here are the results of that... Any other hints? Other people in my cluster
have no problems with their session manager, just little old me.


ADEPT::[BURR]>          write sys$output f$getsyi("free_gblpages")
8530
ADEPT::[BURR]>          write sys$output f$getsyi("contig_gblpages")
8250
ADEPT::[BURR]>

deryl
2134.8same problemLDYBUG::PELAGATTIAnneTue Feb 13 1990 13:345
    Any ideas on this problem?  I have the same problem.
    re: .6, I have 20K contiguous gblpages.
    
    Are there UAF parameter guidelines?  
    
2134.9Check the old "standards" againAGBEAR::HORNERA.G.Bear, Old fashion teddy bearWed Feb 14 1990 08:4311
    I know this has already been suggested, but the only two other things
    that I have seen cause this are either some kind of DCL code in one of
    the four LOGIN files, or protection problems on the LOGIN files.  Check
    the system's DECW$SYLOGIN.COM, SYLOGIN.COM, your DECW$LOGIN.COM, and
    your LOGIN.COM for any code whatsoever that expects some kind of input
    or response at login time.  Common examples of this are SET TERM/INQ,
    READ/PROMPT, and INQUIRE, although there may be more.  You can't do
    anything that requires input, either implicit or explicit.  SECURPACK
    and PROJECT accounts are notorious for doing things like this.

                 Dave