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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2128.0. "VMS5.3/DECW-SDC Logo & Login won't come up" by PGG::MCKINNON () Wed Jan 24 1990 14:28

    Have a Vaxstation-2/GPX with 16MB memory.
    I installed SDC release VMS5.3 without 
    Decwindows.  I later added DECW053 (sdc
    release save sets with DECW$tailor.
    
    No error messages during installation.
    However, can't get the Digital Logo and
    login box to come up.  
    
    What do you think is the problem?.
    Linda
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2128.1STAR::MFOLEYRebel Without a ClueWed Jan 24 1990 15:275

	The WINDOW_SYSTEM parameter in SYSGEN should be set to 1.

							mike
2128.2LOGO WON'T COME UPAPACHE::MCKINNONThu Jan 25 1990 14:023
    Mike, the window_system parameter IS set to 1, but
    the windows won't come up!
    
2128.3Perhaps GBLPAGES?STAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, VMS DevelopmentThu Jan 25 1990 14:171
What value do you have for the SYSGEN parameter GBLPAGES?
2128.4SYSGEN vs MODPARAMSOAHU::BEERMANCharlie BeermanFri Jan 26 1990 08:2211
>                      <<< Note 2128.2 by APACHE::MCKINNON >>>
>                             -< LOGO WON'T COME UP >-
> 
>     Mike, the window_system parameter IS set to 1, but
>     the windows won't come up!

   I don't want to beat this one to death, but are you *sure*?   The
   reason I ask is that I had the same problem, and I *thought* I had
   set WINDOW_SYSTEM to 1 in SYSGEN, but it turned out that my
   MODPARAMS.DAT (created by the VMS installation procedure??) had set
   it to 0.
2128.5GBLPAGES 30000 & Window System =1PGG::MCKINNONMon Jan 29 1990 18:3113
    My GBLPAGES are set at 30000 AND 
    Window_system is set at 1.
    (Modparams.dat does not redefine it).
    
    All other system parameters check out.
    BUT for some reason the WORKSTATION process
    DIES each time I try to invoke DECTERM or
    FILEVIEW.
    
    I have 16MBytes of memory on a single user GPX.
    My system disk is NOT beyond 70% capacity.
    
    
2128.6Hold it... start describing this all over againSTAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, VMS DevelopmentMon Jan 29 1990 20:1810
Wait a second... your problem description doesn't make sense.  In the
original description, you said that the Logo and the Login box wouldn't
come up.  But now you say that the "WORKSTATION" process dies when you
try to invoke DECterm or Fileview.  How did you attempt to start DECterm
or Fileview without being able to login through the Login box?

Please tell us the whole story with lots more details.

Also, please post the contents of SYS$MANAGER:DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOG and
SYS$LOGIN:DECW$SM.LOG, if any.
2128.7OK-2 different installations of samePGG::MCKINNONTue Jan 30 1990 13:0420
    Sorry..about 2 stories!  I used a VS325 terminal to set host
    to my system so that I could examine it.
    
    When the Blue Login Box wouldn't come up, I logged into
    my system over the network and I used the DECW$tailor
    utility to remove decwindows.  I then added it again with
    DECW$tailor (selecting everything, as I thought I did
    before).
    
    Then I got the blue login box and logged into the system.  However,
    when I selected the session Manager window for DECTERM, the Workstation
    process died.  I then checked the *Session_0_error.log files and
    ALL the error log files were empty.
    
    I NOW have discovered that the problem may be caused by my login file
    which sets up some VWS logicals, fonts and installs VWS fonts.
    
    I am removing the VWS related commands and then I will try again.
    
    Linda
2128.8MAXPROCESSCNT?WINERY::VILAINMIMore garlic, says the cooking lady...Tue Jan 30 1990 20:026
    By chance, what is your MAXPROCESSCNT?  If it's to low, DECwindows 
    can't start all the processes it needs to run.
    
    Just a SWAG,
    
    /MeV/
2128.9Window won't come upPGG::MCKINNONWed Jan 31 1990 09:4021
MAXPROCESSCNT is 28 (current).  What should it be?
    
    Here is my DECW$server_0_error.log file
    Note: that fileview (connection 98d00 and
    98d38 are closed); I think these are DECTERM
    and FILEVIEW.
    ---------------------------------------------------
    
    
31-JAN-1990 09:05:28.6 Hello, this is the X server
Dixmain address=127b0
Now attach all known txport images
%DECW-I-ATTACHED, transport DECNET attached to its network
in SetFontPath
out SetFontPath
GPX color/monochrome support loaded
gpx$InitOutput address=1297f4
Connection Prefix: len == 42
31-JAN-1990 09:06:54.1 Now I call scheduler/dispatcher
31-JAN-1990 09:07:04.5 Connection 98d00 is closed by Txport
31-JAN-1990 09:13:09.1 Connection 98d38 is closed by Txport
2128.10DECWIN::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23Wed Jan 31 1990 10:187
I think you need to define WORKSTATION PROCESS for us.  I take it from the log
that you are not talking about the server, since there are no errors in the
server log.  (This is the process called DECW$SERVER_0 or some suche).

Do you mean the session manager?  Can we see sys$login:decw$sm.log?

Burns
2128.112nd Disk Controller a problem?PGG::MCKINNONWed Jan 31 1990 10:4913
    When I did a show system, I got a process DECW$_wxxx for the
    workstation process I assume. This process kept getting
    "killed".
    
    Anyway, i think i have it resolved.  I mentioned I was using 2 RD54
    controllers, because I have 2 RD54, a TK and an RX on 1 controller
    and 1 RD54 on the second controller.  My login directory was on
    the second controller.  Apparently, DECWINDOWS cannot support
    2 controllers... I moved the directory to the first controller's
    device DUA1: and EVERYTHING works like a charm!
    
    Thanks,