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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2092.0. "Display/Server problem" by HOGAN::GAVAZZI (Open the POD doors H.A.L.-- HAL?) Sat Jan 20 1990 12:12

    I have a problem with DECwindows. When I went to version 2 I was using
    a VAXstation II as the display server and running things like DECwrite
    and Filevue on my LAVC boot server, another MicroVAX II. I was using
    task to task to startup the filevue on the server machine. This was
    working very well until the server machine was rebooted and I can no
    longer get a DECwindows server process started on the boot server. I do
    not even recall if I ever even had one. I just know that what was once
    working, no longer does with the only change a system reboot. 
    
    I have walked through the DECW$startup.com process and the Start server
    portion never gets run due to no DECW$device being present. Can anyone
    give me some ideas of where to go next? I have retailored DECwindows
    onto the server with no effect on the problem.
    
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2092.1STAR::MFOLEYRebel Without a ClueSun Jan 21 1990 23:0410
       
       
       
       	If you are starting up the job on your LAVc boot member, then why
       not just submit a quick and dirty command procedure to batch??
       
       	$ set display/create/node=satellite
       	$ mcr writer (or whatever the correct image is nowadays)
       
       							mike
2092.2Done in task-to-task $ set display/create/node=satellite $ mcr writer (or whatever the correct image is nowadays) MASHIE::GAVAZZIOpen the POD doors H.A.L.-- HAL?Mon Jan 22 1990 11:060
2092.3Should DECW$SERVER_0 exist?HOGAN::GAVAZZIOpen the POD doors H.A.L.-- HAL?Mon Jan 22 1990 21:2010
    Excuse the last reply... First day with the new hands

    Anyway, I have done the set display in the transparent task-to-task
    stuff. The problem I have is that I can not seem to get a server going
    on the LAVC Boot server node. The question is:

    Does a DECwindows server node W/O workstation H/W have A DECW$server_0
    process and if so what would STOP it from being started as part of a
    normal boot sequence (i.e. logical names etc.)?

2092.4STAR::MCLEMANHey!!! This Stall is Taken!!Tue Jan 23 1990 06:592
You should never have a server process on a machine that doesn;t have
workstation hardware (or window_system=0 in sysgen).
2092.5Confusion in terminologySTAR::VATNEPeter Vatne, VMS DevelopmentTue Jan 23 1990 10:5719
From reading the base note, I think there is a confusion in terminology
here.  Let me try to describe your configuration and you tell me if I
got it straight.

You have two nodes, a VAXstation II, which has a display and therefore
runs the display server, and a MicroVAX II, which doesn't have a display,
but on which you run your DECwindows applications (display clients).
When you run your applications on the MicroVAX II, you first do a 
SET DISPLAY/CREATE/NODE= to point your display to the VAXstation II.

In order for this to work, you must have tailored DECwindows onto both
the VAXstation II (the server machine), and the MicroVAX II (the client
machine).  DECW$STARTUP will be run on both machines when they are
booted.  On the server machine, you must also have SYSGEN parameter
WINDOW_SYSTEM set to 1.  WINDOW_SYSTEM should be set to 0 on any
machine without display hardware, even if it is running DECwindows
clients.  The server will only be started on the server machine.

Does this make things clearer?
2092.6The haze clears...HOGAN::GAVAZZIOpen the POD doors H.A.L.-- HAL?Tue Jan 23 1990 19:4012
    OK, the haze is clearing. I see now that I am blaming the wrong S/W for
    my troubles. I installed DECwindows on the MicroVAX II and VAXstation
    II and then focused all of my efforts on the VAXstation II. I got this
    task-to-task stuff going and went on my merry way. When the
    task-to-task stuff broke, for an as yet undetermined reason, I jumped
    to the conclusion that it was the display client's problem. After
    running PC DECwindows off the MicroVAX II today, and in light of the
    last few replies, I see I must look elsewhere for the problem. Thanks for 
    all the help...


    P.S.  Any tips on using task-to-task to accomplish this?