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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

2057.0. "DECwindow Product Manager" by SAHQ1::SHULER () Wed Jan 17 1990 10:25

    Who is the Product Manager for DECwindows?  If you know, PLEASE 
    contact me on sahq::shuler or dtn 385-2826.
    
    This regards a request to be a field test site for DECwindows from
    Martin Marietta Corp.
    
    I have left a message with the sales rep (Bob Johnson) to return
    my call.
    
    Many thanks,
    
    Gina Shuler
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2057.1One for Every Occasion :^)SICVAX::TIMMINSXUI & OSF - Perfect TogetherWed Jan 17 1990 12:5281
    
    DECwindows has (regretfully) not been under one roof since Sept 1988.
    
    Therefore it is necessary to go to specific product areas to get
    field test approval.
    
    Paul Steeves is the VMS DECwindows Product Manager
    
    Jon Hall is the Ultrix Workstation Software product manager (Ultrix
    DECwindows is the base component of UWS) and he can point you in
    the right direction.
    
    SDT is also involved in DECwindows, from a layered product/toolkit
    perspective.  VUIT, etc. is done over there.  
    
    From an administration point of view, there is also the DECwindows
    Program Office (John Hurd, Shirley Schneider, and Jake VanNoy as the
    DECwindows Architect).
    
    If your customer is interested in OSF/Motif, there are several flavors
    to consider...
    
    	OSF/Motif is going through rapid change (relatively speaking):
    
    	   a)  August 21, 1989 -- OSF/Motif V1.0 release with extended
    		version of MIT Xt Intrinsics.  Generally available
    	        internally but not to customers starting last Sept.
    		Check SICVAX::MOTIF notes conference.
    
    	   b)  End of Sept, 1989 -- DECwindows/Motif (DXm) was provided
    		internally (again via SICVAX::MOTIF) and the DECwindows
    	        Program Office gave NY the okay to extend this offering
    		as a "technology snapshot" to customers provided a Digital
    		loaner product agreement was signed.  See the notes conference
    		for official wording ( I hope no one is offended by the
    		snapshot comment).  In general, like the binary versions
    	        of V1.0 Motif, DECwindows/Motif was provided as is, and
                although it was from Engineering, no support was available.
    
    	   c)  With X11R4 bolstering the underlying Xlib and Xt Intrinsics
    	        that Motif is based on, Motif from OSF and Digital needs to
    	        be shifted to work with X11R4.  Here discussions with
    		the appropriate VMS or UWS product manager as required.
    	
           d)  OSF/Motif V1.1 will be based on X11R4 from OSF and is expected
    	       	in the April/May timeframe.  Included in that release will
    	       	be a fully supported UIL implementation. [ Note UIL is
    	       	a formal part of the OSF Motif offering, however some OSF
    		members were sensistive to UIL be generally supported
    		without a complete test suite available -- this has now
    		been corrected.]
    
    	   e)  OSF/Motif V2.0 is the subject of the next SIGUEC session
    		and have lots of interesting issues to be resolved.  
    		I will see about putting a review of the SIGUEC session
    		in the SICVAX::MOTIF notes conference.
    
    Although not stated up front, DECwindows is a program with several
    rather robust implementations, including VMS and ULTRIX Workstation
    Software.  DECwindows is not just a toolkit, but rather:
    
    	a)  a high quality, well-engineered implementation of X11
    	    server, Xlib, and Xt Intrinsics
    
        b)  a growing set of system software (session manager, fileview,
    	    window manager (often lumped in with toolkit)
    
        c)  a toolkit, once solely XUI based, now transitioning to Motif
    
        d)  a growing set of Desktop Productivity Tools (dxcalendar, 
    	    cardfiler, etc.
       
        e)  Digital and third party layered software products, including
    	    DECwrite, DECchart, DECdecision, VAXSet, etc...)
    
    If I can be of further assistance, please post in the SICVAX::MOTIF
    conference on Motif issues or write to SICVAX::TIMMINS
    
    
    Larry Timmins
    The DECwindows Enthusiast
2057.2STAR::ORGOVANVince OrgovanWed Jan 17 1990 19:422
    Janis Horn is now the VMS DECwindows Product Manager. Her mail
    address is JARETH::HORN.
2057.3conference pointer...SUBWAY::GRAHAMif ya want home cookin, stay homeSun Feb 04 1990 14:1812
    RE .1
    
    >SICVAX::MOTIF
    >conference on Motif issues ...
    
    Larry,
    
    you should know better ;-)
    
    the Motif conference is at SUBWAY::Motif
    
    Kris...