Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

    Ken (PROJECTS), please don't title your notes "BUG" or "X Window
    features denied by DECwindows", it's terribly uniformative and in the
    latter case argumentative and irritating.
    
    Do you really expect one of us to say "We're dumb. We've devoted the
    better part of two years (for my part) to DECWINDOWS and now we
    discover what we have created is a subset?"  Give the hundreds of
    dedicated Digital employees associated with DECwindows some credit,
    won't you?
    
    You are wrong and you need to spend a lot more time reading the
    documentation, looking at examples, and modifying them before you can
    begin to understand how much there is that you don't know.
    
    A graphics context is a data structure of the _server_ and the created
    using the _display_.  Multiple windows can/do/should share graphics
    contexts.  You should already know that.
    
    A widget is a data structure of the _client_.  When created the window
    field is not valid. It becomes valid after XtRealize is called and a
    valid window value is filled in.  If you need to use window a before
    anything is realized but after the display is open, then use the root. 
    You should already know what the root window is and how to obtain
    information on it.  Also, I beginning to believe that you don't have a good
    grasp of what the difference is between a window and a widget.
    
    I suggest that you add
    	"if (window == NULL) {
            printf ("I'm calling X with a null window\n");
    	    exit(0);
    	    }"
    before each of your calls to an X routine which requires a window.
    
    The term "private color cell strategy" doesn't mean anything to me. In
    X (and in DECwindows!!) colors, color cells, and color planes can be
    allocated and new color maps created.   Colors and color maps are
    associated with a display and screen.  All are available to any window
    of a matching visual type.
    
    You should know that many, many other notes exist in this conference
    discussing colors in detail.
    
    Patrick Sweeney
                                                                      

Dear Projects,

To not give your name, AND use an impersonal username like PROJECTS is 
considered to be the height of noting rudeness.

I have sent you personal mail regarding this but you still persist.

One could form the opinion from your rather aggravating note titles
and the fact that you do not wish to identify yourself, that in fact 
you don't really want answers but are just doing some stirring.

There is a noting etiquette - there are even documents available on it. 
You will become known for your noting style.


Doug Rickard, noter.
-------------------

Networks and Communications Consultant
Brisbane
Australia

        I sent similar mail, and at least one note afterwards was
        signed "Ken".
        
        It's a start.  You can always send mail to SYSTEM on
        that node if you are still curious.
        
        Dan

    Don't give us "Ken's" a bad reputation! ;)
    
    Regards,
    
    	 	== ken miller ==

Re: .3

>        It's a start.  You can always send mail to SYSTEM on
>        that node if you are still curious.
        
Hi Dan,

No, I'm not curious. Just trying to help a new noter learn the 
culture. I guess we all made our own gaffes somewhere along the way - 
(some of us have even learnt how to edit an existing note to change 
something we didn't really mean to say :-))

I guess its something we don't realize at first - just how one gets 
recognised by their noting style, even their nicknames, e.g. 'mulp'....

Doug.

	re. 1

	Please excuse the sloppyness and unintended perceptions, and thanx
	for the somewhat reply to my question that got deleted by accident.
	

	Much appreciated
	Ken 1-508-264-2360