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1869.1 | | GALVIA::MCNELIS | Paul Mc Nelis, ODA <==> CDA Gateway | Fri Dec 08 1989 10:55 | 16 |
| From what I've seen, the WM works top-down, left to right through the iconbox,
and moves the icons, as it comes to them, into the available space.
In DW V2, icons can be moved by a single pixel, and, unless you look carefully,
your "straight line" of icons might actually have some one pixel higher or
lower than others, which would account for the reordering you see.
Another thing which can affect this is icons which are a different vertical
size from the others, in this case, after this icon is placed, the order of
other icons may be affected as they fill the space around it.
Then again, maybe the Window Manager really does shuffle the icons.
-- Paul.
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1869.2 | Move them to the very top of the Icon Box... | UVRMNT::HERRLICH | Alan Herrlich | Fri Dec 08 1989 15:07 | 9 |
| This pixel-wise behavior is kind of a pain with re-organize, but if you push
all the icons right up against the very top of the icon box then they will
re-organize correctly. I usually just line my icons up against the top of
Icon Box in the order I want them and do a re-organize them. This still can
be a pain if you re-organize a lot and and want to keep your icons in a definite
order. You can become skilled at placing them at the exact same pixel level,
but it isn't easy...
- Alan
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1869.3 | Y position overrides X position | STAR::BECK | Paul Beck | Fri Dec 08 1989 17:54 | 8 |
| Yes, the new approach is annoying and takes getting used to. I also don't like
the fact that the reorganize button *still* sometimes will wrap an icon off
the right edge and bring up scroll bars, when there's plenty of room for it
lower down. Grrrr.
What I generally do is to stagger things down a few pixels if I want them to
appear to the right. Works consistently (a pain to do, though). Trying to
manually get things at the same height is nearly impossible.
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1869.4 | | XANADU::BERRY | sleep is for parents that eat quiche | Sun Dec 10 1989 19:16 | 8 |
| How about those unlucky few that don't like the predefined order of a
line of icons. I tend to group my icons in a cluster in the left, and
onother in the right, with new icons appearing in the middle.
Is DECwindows somehow telling me that it knows better than me what I
want to do?
JP
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1869.5 | | AITG::DERAMO | Daniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'Eramo | Sun Dec 10 1989 21:16 | 8 |
| >> Is DECwindows somehow telling me that it knows better than me what I
>> want to do?
As with almost all DECwindows applications, if you don't
like the default behavior then you can customize it.
Change WINDOW_SYSTEM in MODPARAMS.DAT.
Dan
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1869.6 | Now I understand - I think! | AYOU49::CHARLES | La bon vie, de la bon mot | Mon Dec 11 1989 06:25 | 16 |
| Hi,
Thanks for all the responces I can now get the reorganise to do what I want by
pushing the top line of Icons up as far as it will go. Though this may not be
a bug, it has the "look and feel" of a feature that people will not like.
Just a suggestion; why not allow people to arrange their applications in the
Autostart menu as they wish, then position the Icons in the same sequence.
Another approach is the one used by CUE (is this a dirty word/accronim in
DECwindows?) and allow people to explicitly position and save their application
Icons.
Thanks
Charley
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1869.7 | | QUARK::LIONEL | Free advice is worth every cent | Mon Dec 11 1989 10:41 | 8 |
| Re: .5
Funny! Are you suggesting we should set WINDOW_SYSTEM to 0 to customize
DECwindows the way we want it? I admit you can put the icons where you want
them with that method, but I think the side-effects are a bit severe for
most people.
Steve
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1869.8 | | SMAUG::MENDEL | What've we done to our fair sister? | Mon Dec 11 1989 12:54 | 3 |
| It seems that being able to configure/save icon xy's would be nice.
-- Kevin (who swears when he hits the |#| by accident)
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1869.9 | | AITG::DERAMO | Daniel V. {AITG,ZFC}:: D'Eramo | Mon Dec 11 1989 17:30 | 8 |
| re .7
>> Funny! Are you suggesting we should set WINDOW_SYSTEM to 0 to customize
>> DECwindows the way we want it?
I meant setting it to which of 0 or 2 sets it for VWS (UIS). :-)
Dan
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1869.10 | | SSPENG::KLEINSORGE | So sue me. | Mon Dec 11 1989 20:21 | 3 |
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:-) What a scream :-)
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1869.11 | Noted. | STAR::CYPRYCH | | Fri Dec 15 1989 13:57 | 15 |
| Your suggestions for user-selection of predefined
icon positions is noted...
Your suggestions for the tidy button positioning
icons based upon a user-selected order is also
noted... ( The list is quite long in how many
different orders a user would like to tidy her/his
icon box)
At the present time the XUI window manager is not
being enhanced, due to Motif.
If this ever changes, then this wish list will
be broken out again.
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1869.12 | | OED::BEYER | Hugh R. Beyer | Fri Dec 15 1989 20:53 | 7 |
| Then put this on the list of desired DEC extensions to the Motif window
manager.
The icon box is a control panel. It's ridiculous that I can't set it
up consistently each time.
HRB
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1869.13 | | TALLIS::MCAFEE | Steve McAfee | Tue Dec 19 1989 17:18 | 10 |
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Sometimes pausing and then unpausing the screen adds scroll bars
to my icon box. Just a nuisance. Seems to happen when I have
icons near both the right and left edges, but I can't nail it
down.
Also, I'd like to be able to disable that darn reorganize button.
Quite a few times I've hit it when I didn't want to...
- steve
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