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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

1786.0. "DECW$STARTUP gets run twice ?" by MARVIN::WARWICK (Trevor Warwick) Mon Nov 27 1989 05:13

    
    While debugging a system startup problem on our LAVC recently, I had
    cause to run through system startup with DCL Verify turned on.
    
    It seems to me like DECW$STARTUP gets run twice - once quite early on
    in  the boot process, and once at the end after SYSTARTUP_V5 has
    exited. Why is this ?
    
    Trevor

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1786.1		LESLIE::LESLIE	Andy �� Leslie	`Mon Nov 27 1989 09:42`	1
	It shouldn't. Do you have a @DECW$STARTUP line in SYSTARTUP_V5?
1786.2	Check out sysman...	ORDERS::SANTINELLI	You be me for a while, and I'll be you...	`Mon Nov 27 1989 12:19`	6
	Check to see if the startup is in sysman. I found some interesting things in sysman that I didn't even have installed on my cluster... sms
1786.3	It looks like it is supposed to do this...	MARVIN::WARWICK	Trevor Warwick	`Tue Nov 28 1989 03:41`	25
	Having looked a bit further, it does appear to get run twice - by design ! VMS$CONFIG-050_VMS.COM contains the following segment: $DEFINE DECW$IGNORE_DECNET TRUE $DEFINE DECW$IGNORE_WORKSTATION TRUE $@SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTUP $DEASSIGN DECW$IGNORE_DECNET $DEASSIGN DECW$IGNORE_WORKSTATION VMS$LPBEGIN-050_STARTUP.COM contains the following segment: $if f$search("sys$manager:systartup_v5.com") .nes."" then - @sys$manager:systartup_v5 "''p1'" "''p2'" "''p3'" "''p4'" "''p5'" "''p6'" "''p7" $@SYS$MANAGER:DECW$STARTUP Obviously, the first one doesn't do any "WORKSTATION" things, but it still runs through a hell of a lot of DCL. Anyone know why it does this ? Trevor
1786.4		STAR::MCLEMAN	Jeff McLeman, VMS Development	`Tue Nov 28 1989 07:23`	1
	I assume it is to install shareable images.
1786.5	The Same Question	49079::TISSERAND	Jean-Marc TISSERAND TSC FRANCE	`Thu Dec 14 1989 10:26`	16
	One of my customer asks me the same question. If you choose to start decwindows on your system, you do not have to start it twice. If you choose to not start decwindows on your system, you do not need to start it once. So why is decwindows started twice ? Thanks for help. Jean-Marc.
1786.6	Why decw$startup runs twice	STAR::ORGOVAN	Vince Orgovan	`Thu Dec 14 1989 18:30`	6
	I forget the exact details, but the essence of it is that certain parts of DECwindows startup must run before the system manager's tailorable systartup_v5.com file, whereas other functions of the startup must happen after systartup_v5 has executed. So it always runs twice, branching internally to the different sections at the right time.