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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1777.0. "High resolution screens with DECwindows support ???" by ULF::LUNDQVIST (Strange? I didn't change that module.) Tue Nov 21 1989 13:11

	This is a question related to high resolution screens and DECwindows 
	support for such screens.

	I found some previous discussions about this topic using /title and
	/keyword but didn't really find an answer. I am sorry if this has been
	covered elsewhere.

---

	My customer wants to see an aerial view of his plant. The aerial 
	view is going to show statuses of different processes and machines. 
	Color will be used to show statuses. The customer needs about 25 of 
	these screens so cost is also an issue.

	We calculated based on his requirements that the needed resolution
	of a 19" screen is about 2500x2000. The customer also wants to 
	project this screen on a wall so that he can look at the information 
	from the other side of the room.

	The ideal solution would be a high resolution X-terminal connected with
	some projection equipment.

	Does anybody know of such a "monster" (from Digital or 3rd party) 
	where Xwindows is supported and projection equipment can be connected?

	Any ideas of notesfiles (except Terminals) to look in for more 
	information or people to contact?

	Thanks in advance

	/ Ulf
	
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1777.1I know of no commercial displays with that many pixelsGUEST::ORANDave OranWed Nov 22 1989 08:1518
There may be some military equipment with >4 megapixels, but I don't
personally know about it.

The "largest" display I've ever come across is the high-end color system
from Symbolics, which they sell to the movie/advertising industry.
That display is 2K x 2K (approximately).

The visual effect was *astonishing*.

Remember that 4 megapixels is BETTER than a 35 milimeter slide using
commercial-grade film.

Does the customer REALLY need something that good?

I suspect that they don't need that for an overall plant view, but rather
want to ZOOM. Now zooming over a fixed digital data set requires
arbitrary resolution, but with a workstation synthesizing all of the
object, you can clearly recompute (or pre-compute) zoomed views.
1777.2I agree I don't think they need it, but they think they do.ULF::LUNDQVISTStrange? I didn't change that module.Wed Nov 22 1989 11:2812
	I agree. I don't think the customer REALLY needs it, but he thinks so.
	We have suggested zooming and other nice things you can do
	with windowing techniques. We think that one of our competitors
	(TI, IBM, Tandem) have locked him into thinking that he needs an
	aerial/overview thing on the wall. Price is an issue for this customer
	and I don't think they will go for anything with a high price. I am 
	assuming that a 2k x 2k display will be extremely expensive.

	Thanks for your answer

	/ Ulf
1777.3300 dpi monitorsOXNARD::HAYNESCharles HaynesMon Nov 27 1989 00:135
    I've seen prototypes of a 300dpi monochrome system.
    
    Astonishing is the right word. Can you say real wysiwyg?
    
    	-- Charles
1777.4BYTE has a short blurb in the new products sectionNORGE::CHADIch glaube Ich t�te Ich h�tteMon Nov 27 1989 15:435
I don't have the BYTE magazine in the office but the lastest (with all the
new notebook laptops) BYTE has a What's New article about a monitor that
offers at least 300dpi.  check it out.

Chad
1777.5Pixel counting applications would rot...LENO::GRIERmjg's holistic computing agencyMon Nov 27 1989 18:586
   With no offense implied to DECwindows mail, but I'd hate to see it on a
300dpi system.  The reading box would be about 1.5" wide.

   I bet DECwrite would look incredible tho'...

					-mjg
1777.6The world should work right...CRLMAX::jgJim Gettys, Cambridge Research LabMon Nov 27 1989 19:233
If you weren't foolish enough to wire the wrong part of the font name, so that
you'd use an appropriate size font...
				- Jim
1777.7Tjabba Uffe !STKHLM::DSUNDSTROMDan Sundstr�m ACT StockholmTue Nov 28 1989 04:086
Hi Ulf,
Give me a call. We have a customer here in Sweden who's done some projection
with appr 600*2000 size pictures. I can point you in the right direction if you
are interested.
/Danne
876-7217