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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1758.0. "What sysuaf fields does DECwindows check?" by CSC32::HULL () Fri Nov 17 1989 10:32

      I have a big question:  What qualifiers does DECwindows ignore
    in the authorize utility?  I would like to get a complete list.
    /ACCESS?
    /ACCOUNT
    /ADD_IDENTIFIER
    /ASTLM
    /BATCH
    /BIOLM
    /BYTLM
    /CLI
    /CLITABLES
    /CPUTIME
    /DEFPRIVILEGES
    /DEVICE
    /DIALUP
    /DIOLM
    /DIRECTORY
    /ENQLM
    /EXPIRATION
    /FILLM
    /FLAGS
    		AUDIT
    		AUTOLOGIN
    		CAPTIVE
    		DEFCLI
    		DISCTLY
    		DISMAIL
    		DISNEWMAIL
    		DISRECONNECT
    		DISREPORT
    		DISUSER
    		DISWELCOME
    		FORCE_EXP_PWD_CHANGE
    		GENPWD
    		LOCKPWD
    		PWD_EXPIRED
    		PWS2_EXPIRED
    /GENERATE_PASSWORD
    		ALL
    		BOTH
    		CURRENT
    		PRIMARY
    		SECONDARY
    /INTERACTIVE
    /JTQUOTA
    /LGICMD
    /LOCAL
    /MAXACCTJOBS
    /MAXDETACH
    /MAXJOBS
    /NETWORK
    /OWNER
    /PGFLQUOTA
    /PRCLM
    /PRIMEDAYS
    /PRIORITY
    /PRIVILEGES
    /PWDEXPIRED
    /PWDLIFETIME
    /PWDMINIMUM
    /SHRFILLM
    /TQELM
    /WSDEFAULT
    /WSEXTENT
    /WSQUOTA
    
    This is in response to a customer request for DECwindows login to 
    act in the same manner of VMS login.
    
    Thanks for Noticing Me.       Brett Hull
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1758.1Huh?DECWIN::JMSYNGEJames M Synge, VMS DevelopmentFri Nov 17 1989 18:144
Perhaps you can be a bit more specific?  Why are you assuming that we are
ignoring the SYSUAF fields?

James
1758.2LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� LeslieSat Nov 18 1989 03:5217
    Brett,
    
    	We shouldn't (and don't, as far as I know) "ignore" any SYSUAF
    fields at all. That'd be...(sylvester the cat impression here)
    desthpicable! Not to mention daft.
    
    	Let's take this again. Your customer believes that DECWINDOWS logs
    in differently to vanilla VMS. The Login process additionally runs
    SYS$MANAGER:DECW$SYLOGIN.COM and SYS$LOGIN:DECW$LOGIN.COM if they
    exist, and kicks off applications if desired. What differences does
    your customer perceive? 
    
    Finally, please let us know what versions of VMS and DECWINDOWS your
    customer is running.
    
    - Andy ��� Leslie
      VMS CSSE Newbury
1758.3SITBUL::KLEINSORGESo sue me.Sat Nov 18 1989 15:355
    
    Maybe they're talking about the PQL minimums that DECwindows requires
    and thus override the UAF settings.
    
    _Fred
1758.4Sysuaf flag NOFORCE_EXP_PWD_CHANGECSC32::HULLMon Nov 20 1989 09:5612
      Thanks for all of the responses.  Specifically the customer is having
    a problem with the flag NOFORCE_EXP_PWD_CHANGE.  At a normal DCL login 
    if this flag is set it will allow the user to login and perform tasks 
    before they have to change the password.  When he uses the DECwindows
    login box it makes him change the password when he logs in regardless
    of how this flag is set.  I included almost all of the sysuaf flags and 
    qualifiers because I understood that other flags were not checked when
    you loged in under DECwindows.  Please give me some more feedback so
    that I can narrow this question down.
    
    				Thanks for Your Support.
    						Brett
1758.5DEcwindows set password implementationSTAR::BROUILLETTEMon Nov 20 1989 11:3112
    
    
    When you run loginout from a terminal there are three paths for expired
    passwords: 1. a warning that your password is about to expire, 2. a
    prompt for a new password, 3. a warning to run set password.  The third
    case is the one you are interested in.   With a DECwindows login, only
    the 1st and 2cd cases are handled.   The third case is coded like the
    second, we put up the set password box.   A message to run set password
    didn't seem very user friendly when we don't have a DECwindows interface 
    to set password and can't get to it from ANY menu on ANY application.
    
    
1758.6ThanksCSC32::HULLMon Nov 20 1989 15:404
      Thanks.  The customer wanted that option because he handles this 
    through a memu procedure.  I would like to thank everyone for the help.
    
    						Brett.