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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:	DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:	See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:	STAR::VATNE

Created:	Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:	Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	3726
Total number of notes:	19516

1675.0. "Password Verification Problem" by KL2102::COBB (A rose by any other name returns %DNS-E-INVALID_ENTRYNAME) Mon Nov 06 1989 09:29

I recently upgraded my /GPX to V5.3 SSB.  Since some of my SYSGEN parameters
seemed to be out of whack (MIN_PAGEFILE in MODPARAMS was ignored), I decided
to reset my parameters from scratch.  I AUTOGENd INITIAL, then AUTOGENd
NOFEEDBACK.  

Since doing this, I've been consistently unable to resume a paused session
from a non-priv'd account.  That is, once I pause a session for COBB, for 
instance, I can't EVER resume that session.  Every attempt produced the
little exception box telling me:
	Password Verification Problem: 	[note the trailing colon...sort of makes
					 one expect additional text, no?]

I can SET HOST or LAT in at this point, and really don't believe I've mistyped
my password this many times ONLY when resuming a session.

If I login as SYSTEM, I can pause/resume to my hearts content.

Gut feel: Some priv/quota problem.
Typical VMS user's question: Which priv/quota!?

Thanks
Danny

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
1675.1	one hint	YUCATN::LASTOVICA	Stupid Yellow Sign on Board	`Mon Nov 06 1989 23:38`	3
	log in on another terminal and do a repl/enable. Then enable security alarms and try to resume. If it is a file protection issue, this should help.
1675.2	it was GBLPAGES...30000 plus a few wasn't enough	KL2102::COBB	A rose by any other name returns %DNS-E-INVALID_ENTRYNAME	`Thu Nov 09 1989 07:16`	0
1675.3	Same problem, but GBLPAGES didn't work for me.	ARTFUL::SCOTT	TPU, TP me, TP them, TP ... we?	`Thu Nov 09 1989 18:11`	17
	I had a problem with identical symptoms. My GBLPAGES were at 39000 already, but I tried raising it to 45000 (arbitrarily), to no avail. The clue that .0 gave me was that the pause window worked from SYSTEM without problem. (I never do a DECwindows login to SYSTEM--I just open a DECterm and set host 0 when I want to do systems management stuff). So I tried giving the session manager all privileges, which also failed. Then I compared my account's definition to SYSTEM's and found that all my privileges and quotas were the same or higher, except for 3: my BYTLM was 4096 (vs 20480), ASTlm was 24 (vs 40), ENQlm was 30 (vs 40). So I just adjusted these three to match, and now the pause window works. I doubt that it was all three--I strongly suspect BYTLM, but I'm not going to waste time narrowing it down. It would be very nice if the session manager would report a more detailed error message (if and only if the problem is not security related).
1675.4	Can't log in from pause window	ZORBA::BURACK	Not Fade Away	`Tue May 08 1990 11:34`	12
	Hi, I am running ULTRIX Verion 3.1 and the latest version of UWS (2.2?). It is running on a VS2000 with 14Mb of memory. Once in awhile - about once a week or less, I can't log in from the pause window. There is no error message... It just doesn't let me in. I have to reboot. Thanks, Ruth-Ellen
1675.5	Shift-lock?	COOKIE::KITTELL	Richard - Architected Info Mgmt	`Wed May 09 1990 11:31`	4
	Passwords on Ultrix are case-sensitive. If you are having troubling logging in, look to see if the "Lock" light on your keyboard is illuminated. If so, you have been typing your password in all uppercase...
1675.6	thanks.. lowercase rules....	ZORBA::BURACK	Not Fade Away	`Wed May 09 1990 11:54`	6
	Hi, Well, that is the problem and explains why it only happens once in awhile.... just another reason to love UNIX....:-) Ruth-Ellen