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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1663.0. "DECwindows CARDFILER Program" by CRAIGA::SCHOMP (The Lone Ranger) Thu Nov 02 1989 19:57

I'm not sure where to post this so I'll try here....

Situation: I was running the cardfiler program and entering
	cards when my system crashed. I have a file CARDFILE.TMP
	still in my account which I assume has data about the
	cards I had created in it. I try to restart CARDFILER
	but it creates a new CARDFILE.TMP instead of reading
	the old one. I'm trying to recover all the stuff I did.
	Anyone know how?

Is there a notesfile for this program anywhere? If not, how
do I file an SPR and to who?

Thanks,
Craig.
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1663.1Rename to something.CARDWHCOX::WHCOXBill Cox, Database Systems, CXN1/5, 523-2873Sat Nov 04 1989 14:024
    Are you sure that there is something in the old .tmp file. You might
    try DUMP/RECORD and verify that there is something in there. If there
    is, just rename it to something.CARD and the cardfiler will recognize
    it.
1663.2VIA::FINNEGANAll of the best intentions are less than one good act.Fri Nov 10 1989 16:5218
This is not really a bug, it a limitation.

The cardfiler does not have any journelling or recovery support (it is on the
wish list) so you are in trouble when your system crashes.

The .tmp file is used by the cardfiler to keep track of changes to the database
when you add or modify cards but it does not have enough information in it to
recreate the database on a crash.

You may be able to edit the file and paste the strings into a cardfiler but it
would be a purely manual operation.

I save whenever I make changes in case my system crashes, not a prefect solution
but...

Sorry for the inconvience,

Neal
1663.3cardfiler bug?TALLIS::MCAFEESteve McAfeeThu Jan 11 1990 11:2713
    Something really wierd happened to me in the card filer today.
    I have a phonebook setup I've been using for 3 or 4 months with
    no problems.  Today, I went in there to get a number and somehow
    two or three cards were propagated to all the others.  Of the
    50-60 cards listed there are only about 3 or 4 DIFFERENT
    cards.  For example, fifteen or so now have the card for boston
    university.  Anyone have a suggestion as to what happened???
    
    It looks like I last wrote out address.card on dec 28, but I
    don't remember if I've used it since then.  I restarted the cardfiler
    and got the same results...
    
    - steve
1663.4VIA::FINNEGANAll of the best intentions are less than one good act.Thu Jan 25 1990 16:075
That sounds like a bug.  What version of everything are you running?

If you are running VMS 5.1 or 5.2 I think I know what the bug is.

neal
1663.5TALLIS::MCAFEESteve McAfeeMon Jan 29 1990 13:509
I'm now running VMS 5.3 and DECW V2, but I've had the cardfile around
since I was running VMS 5.2 and DECW V1 I think.  Some of the cards
were still correct, so it very well may have been munged since before
I upgraded.

I re-entered everything and haven't had a problem since.  I am going
to keep a backup from now on though just in case...

- steve
1663.6VIA::FINNEGANAll of the best intentions are less than one good act.Tue Jan 30 1990 09:346
Ok,

If you want to QAR it and give access to one of the corrupt databases then I
will look into it.

Neal
1663.7TALLIS::MCAFEESteve McAfeeThu Feb 01 1990 15:346
It doesn't bother me that much, but if you want me to QAR it, I still
have a bad file and it is very small.  Just a bunch of phone numbers...

Which QAR database do I use for cardfiler?  DECWINDOWS-IFT?

- steve
1663.8Cardfiler WishlistDECWET::SHUSTERGive me cowboy lipsMon Mar 19 1990 14:3412
    I was wondering if there are any planned enhancements to Cardfiler.
    Specifically, it would be nice to have the ability to:
    
    o Delete or Modify the occurence of a certain string throughout a 
    specified stack of cards.  
    
    o Pull in an ascii file, in addition to image files.
    
    I couldn't find a Cardfiler notesfile, so maybe this can be the start
    of a wishlist.
    
    -Rob
1663.9YRDARM::finneganNeal, DECdecision - mail to: via::finneganWed Aug 08 1990 11:189
The best way to make requests for new cardfiler functionality is to QAR them
as suggestions.

It is hard to keep up with all of the notesfiles.

Currently no big new features are planned due to work for Motif, XNLS and
Memex.

Neal (former Cardfiler project leader)