| Title: | DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90 |
| Notice: | See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit |
| Moderator: | STAR::VATNE |
| Created: | Mon Oct 30 1989 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Dec 31 1990 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 3726 |
| Total number of notes: | 19516 |
Hi,
I have a couple of queries regarding the DECwindow login mechanism
brought to my attention by a customer.
1) If the UAF flag DISFORCE_PWD_CHANGE is set and your password
expires, on an ordinary terminal(DECnet), you get the message :-
'Your password has expired, please update immediately with
SET PASSWORD', wheras DECwindows forces a password change.
ie. In DECwindows this flag would appear to have no effect.
2) While logging in to DECwindows, you are as explained in (1)
forced to change your password before proceeding, while doing
this, if an attempt is made to login on a terminal, VMS lets
you in, giving accounting details, new mail count etc. but
then just hangs.
If you are in the process of changing your password on a
TERMINAL however, the other login attempt returns the
message 'Your password has expired - contact system manager'.
It seems that DECwindows is locking the UAF record while you
change the password, is this correct behaviour ?
3) Creating a DECterm from the session manager changes
the UAF 'last non-interactive login' time, while DECterm
IS an INTERACTIVE session.
Hope I've explained these queries properly. Can anybody
tell me if and why this is expected behaviour.
much obliged
Rich
| T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1659.1 | Is there anybody out there ? | SCOTMN::WOOD | Richard Wood - UK Workstation Support DTN 833 -3801 | Tue Nov 14 1989 07:11 | 7 |
Can anybody else reproduce the problems in .0 with v1.0 or v2.0 DECWindows ? Any info appreciated Rich | |||||
| 1659.2 | Same problems in V5.3-48F | SCOTMN::WOOD | Richard Wood - UK Workstation Support DTN 833 -3801 | Fri Dec 08 1989 06:03 | 7 |
I have now reproduced the same problems on VMS V5.3-48F (V2 DECW). Can anybody shed any light on them. Thanks in advance Rich | |||||
| 1659.3 | answers | STAR::BROUILLETTE | Wed Dec 13 1989 10:59 | 33 | |
>1) If the UAF flag DISFORCE_PWD_CHANGE is set and your password
>expires, on an ordinary terminal(DECnet), you get the message :-
>'Your password has expired, please update immediately with
>SET PASSWORD', wheras DECwindows forces a password change.
>ie. In DECwindows this flag would appear to have no effect.
yes, DECwindows works differently than the a terminal login with
regards to this flag. There is no DECwindows interface to set
password, or I should say, you cannot pick it from any menu. So to
tell users to change their password, but not have a means other than a
DECterm to enter the command, did not seem the correct implementation.
For now, you must change your password from the login screen. Perhaps
this will change when and if we have a DECwindows interface to the set
password DCL command.
>2) While logging in to DECwindows, you are as explained in (1)
>forced to change your password before proceeding, while doing
>this, if an attempt is made to login on a terminal, VMS lets
>you in, giving accounting details, new mail count etc. but
>then just hangs.
yes, this is a known problem which will be fixed in a future
release of DECwindows. It has to do with the routines which the
DECwindows login interface use to access the UAF record.
>3) Creating a DECterm from the session manager changes
>the UAF 'last non-interactive login' time, while DECterm
>IS an INTERACTIVE session.
This is the first I have heard of this problem. Please enter a QAR
and I will look into the problem.
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