Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

1626.0. "DECwindows/user accounts" by BAGELS::GIBEAU () Wed Oct 25 1989 10:25

I installed VMS T5.3-462 on my VS2000 from scratch.  The installation
seemed to go smoothly but it seems that whenever I try to create a user
account I can only start DECterms and can't start clock or calendar,
calculator,...  When I try to start them by typing RUN SYS$SYSTEM:DECW$CLOCK
from one of the DECterms I keep getting the following error:

X Toolkit Warning: DRM: I18NOpenFile: Couldn't open file DECW$CLOCK - 
DRMFailure
X Toolkit Warning: Drm__OpenHierarchy:  - DRMFailure
Can't open hierarchy
 
If I use the Application menu to try and start it I just get to "Starting
appl. (date time)" message in the session manager window but the application
never starts.

It seems that the only accounts that work right are the accounts that were
created when the installation was done (SYSTEM, SYSTEST, FIELD,...).
    
One thing I noticed is that the user accounts don't have the logical
name table DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES.  If I log into the system account and do a
SHOW LOGICAL DECW$* this is what I see:
    

(LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)

(LNM$JOB_8039D190)

  "DECW$DISPLAY" = "WSA1:"                                                  

(LNM$GROUP_000001)

(LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)

  "DECW$DECTERM_MAILBOX_TWINKE::0.0" = "_MBA52:"
  "DECW$SERVER_MBX_000013B3_0" = "MBA16:"
  "DECW$TERMINAL_MAILBOX_TWINKE::0.0" = "_MBA52:"

(DECW$LOGICAL_NAMES)

  "DECW$BOOK" = "SYS$COMMON:[DECW$BOOK]"
  "DECW$EXAMPLES" = "SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.DECW]"
  "DECW$INCLUDE" = "SYS$COMMON:[DECW$INCLUDE]"
  "DECW$KEYMAP" = "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYS$KEYMAP.DECW.USER]"                   
	= "DECW$SYSCOMMON:[SYS$KEYMAP.DECW.SYSTEM]"
  "DECW$SYSCOMMON" = "SYS$COMMON"
  "DECW$SYSTEM_DEFAULTS" = "SYS$COMMON:[DECW$DEFAULTS.USER]"
	= "SYS$COMMON:[DECW$DEFAULTS.SYSTEM]"
	= "SYS$LIBRARY:"
  "DECW$USER_DEFAULTS" = "SYS$LOGIN:"
  "DECW$WINMGREXE" = "SYS$SYSTEM:DECW$WINMGR.EXE"
  "DECW$XLIBERRDB" = "SYS$MESSAGE:DECW$XLIBERRDB.DAT"
    
    and if I log into the user account and do the same thing, this is
    what I see:
    

(LNM$PROCESS_TABLE)
                                                                            
(LNM$SPECIFIC)

(LNM$JOB_8039BC40)

  "DECW$DISPLAY" = "WSA1:"

(LNM$GROUP_000300)

(LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)

  "DECW$DECTERM_MAILBOX_TWINKE::0.0" = "_MBA73:"
  "DECW$SERVER_MBX_000013B3_0" = "MBA16:"
  "DECW$TERMINAL_MAILBOX_TWINKE::0.0" = "_MBA73:"
    
    I also did an upgrade from an VMS V5.2 system and that has the same
    problem.
    
    Any ideas?  I'm new to DECwindows so I not even sure where to start
    looking.

    

    The DRM error messages mean that the applications can't open their
    UID files. Did you check the file protections on the 
    decw$system_defaults:decw$*.uid files? They should have world:read
    access.

    I did a dir/prot sys$sysdevice:[*...]*.uic and every .UID file on
    the system is protected (RWED,RWED,RWED,RE).
    
    I just update to V5.0 and still have the same problem.  No
    DECW$LOGICAL_NAMEs table defined.

    The directory was on *.UID files not .uic and the new upgrade was
    to V5.3.  It's tough typing when you have 3 people in your office.
    
    I guess if I could figure out why the DECW$ logicals are not defined
    it might tell my why my user accounts aren't working.

    It gets created in SYS$MANAGER:DECW$LOGICALS.COM.  Try putting a set
    verify in that command file during system startup and see if you can
    tell why your other processes don't see it.
    
    Note:  I did not check thoroughly.  This may be called several times
    to create several different tables, not all of which are supposed to
    become part of LNM$FILE_DEV etc.
    
    Burns
    

I had a user with a similar problem and found that his LOGIN.COM was the 
culprit. Is it possible that users LOGIN.COMs or SYLOGIN.COM could be doing
something similar ?   

I had the user rename his login.com  to .SAV and had him fire up Windows and 
his problem was solved.  He is trying to isolate the problem within his login
procedure. 

I don't know if this will help but it may be worth a try.