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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1508.0. "VWSDECW" by JUPITR::RITZ () Thu Sep 28 1989 20:41

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Note 337.0                           VWSDECW                           2 replies
JUPITR::RITZ                                         21 lines  22-SEP-1989 19:00
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I have a MVII GPX 16MB Memory
VMS 5.2, DECwindows 1.0 and VWS 4.2

I installed the DECW server for VWS (.a,.b,.c)
When I type @decw$startup

        The process decw$server_0 starts
        The process _WSA1 starts

        I get a operator message 02DB821C
        The process decw$server_0 disappears
        The process _WSA1 disappears
        A unnamed process starts
        The process _WSA1 starts with a higher process ID
        ...

I originally tried under VWS 4.1 and VWSDECW
I reinstalled VWS 4.1 and VWSDECW
I tried under V4.2 and VWSDECW

Same problem


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1508.1More info...JGL::JLENIHANByte TwiddlerMon Oct 02 1989 06:4021
    
    I get the same thing...I've looked at the notes in 1204 but nothing
    seems to work. The server logs indicate the following :-
    
	SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOG;23
 
	Hello, this is the X server
	Dixmain address=253fa
	Now attach all known txport images
	in SetFontPath
	out SetFontPath
 
	SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]DECW$SERVER_0_OUTPUT.LOG;23
 
    
    Puzzled...
    
    � j.
    
    BTW. I'm running VMS 5.2-1, VWS042, DECwindows V1.0

1508.2SITBUL::KLEINSORGESo sue me.Mon Oct 02 1989 12:0419
    
    Hmmm.  Check for the existance and the correct protection (W:RE) for
    the file:
    
    		 SYS$SHARE:DECW$SERVER_DDX_GV.EXE
    
    The next lines in the error log should have been:
    
    VWS/DECwindows
    VWS:  VMFB loaded
    
    These lines are output as the first thing that the GV server does.  It
    makes me think that the DIX layer was unable to find the image - or
    that the image was incompatable (are you *sure* that you don't have the
    V2.0 server?  and are you sure you installed the vwsdec010.a, .b, .c
    from VWSENG:: and not the old one from BULOVA?)
    
    _Fred

1508.3Protection OK...JGL::JLENIHANByte TwiddlerMon Oct 02 1989 12:5117
	Here's the protection Fred....
    
	dir sys$share:*gv*/sec

	Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]

	DECW$SERVER_DDX_GV.EXE;3
        	             [SYSTEM]              (RWED,RWED,RWED,RE)
    
    	>    that the image was incompatable (are you *sure* that you don't
    	> have the V2.0 server?  and are you sure you installed the vwsdec010.a,
    	> .b, .c from VWSENG:: and not the old one from BULOVA?)
    
        Yep..I got the kit from VWSENG::VWS$KITS:[VWS042]
    
    	� j.

1508.4SameCRACKR::SYSTEMMon Oct 02 1989 15:346
Same as .3

Same protection.
Same Server kit location.
I installed DECWINDOWS with VMS052 from MPGS::SYS$KITS:[VMS052].

1508.5SITBUL::KLEINSORGESo sue me.Mon Oct 02 1989 17:0212
    
    
    Do an anal/image on the DECW$SERVER_MAIN.EXE in SYS$SYSTEM: and on
    DECW$SERVER_DIX.EXE in SYS$SHARE: and tell me what the image IDs are.
    
    Also, if you have a MODPARAMS.DAT, rename it to FOO.DAT and re-do the
    AUTOGEN.
    
    You also should see a GVA0: loaded when you show devices.
    
    

1508.6Data..Data!JGL::JLENIHANByte TwiddlerTue Oct 03 1989 04:3639
        Heres the info, Fred....
    
>    Do an anal/image on the DECW$SERVER_MAIN.EXE in SYS$SYSTEM: and on
>    DECW$SERVER_DIX.EXE in SYS$SHARE: and tell me what the image IDs are.
    
	Image Identification Information

		image name: "DECW$SERVER_MAIN"
		image file identification: "DECWINDOWS V5.2"
		link date/time: 23-APR-1989 16:40:16.60
		linker identification: "05-05"
    
	Image Identification Information

		image name: "DECW$SERVER_DIX"
		image file identification: "DECWINDOWS V5.2"
		link date/time: 23-APR-1989 16:35:49.12
		linker identification: "05-05"
    
>    Also, if you have a MODPARAMS.DAT, rename it to FOO.DAT and re-do the
>    AUTOGEN.
    
Will try this...
        
>     You also should see a GVA0: loaded when you show devices.
    
Yep , it's there....
    
Device GVA0: is online, record-oriented device, carriage control, shareable.

    Error count                    0    Operations completed                  0
    Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                      [SYSTEM]
    Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot    S:RWLP,O:RWLP,G:RWLP,W:RWLP
    Reference count                0    Default buffer size                  80
    

    
� j.

1508.7Still no cigar!JGL::JLENIHANByte TwiddlerTue Oct 03 1989 05:3310
    
    Further update...
    
           Renaming MODPARAMS.DAT FOO.BAR and re-installing VWSDECW has no
    effect...
    
    Does anyone recognise what the error code in the Operator window is?
    
    � J.

1508.8more infoJUPITR::RITZTue Oct 03 1989 11:10165
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SYS$SYSTEM:DECW$SERVER_MAIN.EXE
        Image Identification Information

                image name: "DECW$SERVER_MAIN"
                image file identification: "DECWINDOWS V5.2"
                link date/time: 23-APR-1989 16:40:16.60
                linker identification: "05-05"

SYS$SHARE:DECW$SERVER_DIX.EXE
        Image Identification Information

                image name: "DECW$SERVER_DIX"
                image file identification: "DECWINDOWS V5.2"
                link date/time: 23-APR-1989 16:35:49.12
                linker identification: "05-05"

================================================================================

Device GVA0: is online, record-oriented device, carriage control, shareable.

    Error count                    0    Operations completed                  0
    Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                      [SYSTEM]
    Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot    S:RWLP,O:RWLP,G:RWLP,W:RWLP
    Reference count                0    Default buffer size                  80

GVA0:                   Online               0
GVA1:                   Online               0
GVA2:                   Online               0

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$ sh proc/all/id=174

 3-OCT-1989 10:27:53.54   User: SYSTEM           Process ID:   00000174
                                                  Process name: "DECW$SERVER_0"

Terminal:           
User Identifier:    [SYSTEM]
Base priority:      6
Default file spec:  Not available

Devices allocated:  NET3357:

Process Quotas:
 Account name: SYSTEM  
 CPU limit:                      Infinite  Direct I/O limit:       100
 Buffered I/O byte count quota:     47200  Buffered I/O limit:      60
 Timer queue entry quota:               7  Open file quota:         87
 Paging file quota:                 22483  Subprocess quota:         8
 Default page fault cluster:           16  AST quota:              595
 Enqueue quota:                        30  Shared file limit:        0
 Max detached processes:                0  Max active jobs:          0

Accounting information:
 Buffered I/O count:       280  Peak working set size:        789
 Direct I/O count:         279  Peak virtual size:           4240
 Page faults:              480  Mounted volumes:                0
 Images activated:           0
 Elapsed CPU time:      0 00:00:11.23
 Connect time:          0 00:00:32.21
 
Process privileges:
 CMKRNL               may change mode to kernel
 SYSNAM               may insert in system logical name table
 PRMMBX               may create permanent mailbox
 WORLD                may affect other processes in the world
 NETMBX               may create network device
 PRMGBL               may create permanent global sections
 SYSGBL               may create system wide global sections
 PFNMAP               may map to specific physical pages
 SYSPRV               may access objects via system protection
 

There is 1 process in this job: 

  DECW$SERVER_0 (*)

================================================================================

$ sh proc/all/id=139

 3-OCT-1989 10:23:51.32   User: SYSTEM           Process ID:   00000139
                                                  Process name: "_WSA2:"

Terminal:           
User Identifier:    [SYSTEM]
Base priority:      4
Default file spec:  Not available

Process Quotas:
 Account name: <start> 
 CPU limit:                      Infinite  Direct I/O limit:       100
 Buffered I/O byte count quota:     32448  Buffered I/O limit:      40
 Timer queue entry quota:               8  Open file quota:         11
 Paging file quota:                  5387  Subprocess quota:         8
 Default page fault cluster:           16  AST quota:              599
 Enqueue quota:                        30  Shared file limit:        0
 Max detached processes:                0  Max active jobs:          0

Accounting information:
 Buffered I/O count:        23  Peak working set size:        500
 Direct I/O count:          21  Peak virtual size:           5814
 Page faults:              675  Mounted volumes:                0
 Images activated:           0
 Elapsed CPU time:      0 00:00:02.85
 Connect time:          0 00:00:16.90
 
Process privileges:
 SETPRV               may set any privilege bit
 TMPMBX               may create temporary mailbox
 NETMBX               may create network device
 

There is 1 process in this job: 

  _WSA2: (*)

================================================================================

$ sh proc/all/id=177

 3-OCT-1989 10:25:10.22   User: SYSTEM           Process ID:   00000177
                                                  Process name: ""

Terminal:           
User Identifier:    [SYSTEM]
Base priority:      4
Default file spec:  Not available

Process Quotas:
 Account name: <start> 
 CPU limit:                      Infinite  Direct I/O limit:       100
 Buffered I/O byte count quota:     32448  Buffered I/O limit:      40
 Timer queue entry quota:               8  Open file quota:         11
 Paging file quota:                  5387  Subprocess quota:         8
 Default page fault cluster:           16  AST quota:              599
 Enqueue quota:                        30  Shared file limit:        0
 Max detached processes:                0  Max active jobs:          0

Accounting information:
 Buffered I/O count:        23  Peak working set size:        500
 Direct I/O count:          12  Peak virtual size:           5814
 Page faults:              692  Mounted volumes:                0
 Images activated:           0
 Elapsed CPU time:      0 00:00:02.78
 Connect time:          0 00:00:07.32
 
Process privileges:
 SETPRV               may set any privilege bit
 TMPMBX               may create temporary mailbox
 NETMBX               may create network device
 

There is 1 process in this job: 

  (PID 00000177) (*)

================================================================================

I tried
	Autogen
	Reinstalling VWSDECW

1508.9Any resolution?PEACHS::BELDINFri Nov 10 1989 08:507
	Has there been any resolution to this problem?  We have
	a mixed cluster running 5.2 and 5.1 and vws 4.2.  All of
	the systems running 5.2 can't run VD, while the 5.1 systems
	(which may be running 4.1, I don't know) can... 

	Rick
1508.10AND HERE IT IS!FK::FREDSo sue me.Mon Nov 13 1989 23:1823
    ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES **
    
    Well, during a one-week period where my mind was forced into idle and
    my feet used instead (i.e. DECUS :-) I had the chance to install the
    V4.2/V5.2 stuff.
    
    The server is getting a ACCVIO from UIS.  Don't ask me what the hell
    it's doing, but I tracked it down that far without the VWS symbol
    tables handy.
    
    And now, what you've been waiting for:  The WORKAROUND...
    
    The kit consists of three savesets: VWSDECW010.A, .B, .C
    on VMS V5.2 systems obtain the second saveset (.B) and do the
    following:
    
    $ backup vwsdecw010.B/save/sel=([*...]decw$server_ddx_gv.exe) []/lo
    $ copy decw$server_ddx_gv.exe sys$share:/prot=w:re/lo
    
    This will install the V5.1 image - which *will* work.  I will track
    down the actual problem in my spare (gag) time.
    
    ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES ** YES **
1508.11Time stands still for no man...VMS 5.3?JGL::JLENIHANByte TwiddlerTue Nov 14 1989 04:4111
    
    >	$ backup vwsdecw010.B/save/sel=([*...]decw$server_ddx_gv.exe) []/lo
    >	$ copy decw$server_ddx_gv.exe sys$share:/prot=w:re/lo
    >
    >    This will install the V5.1 image - which *will* work.  I will track
    >    down the actual problem in my spare (gag) time.
    
    Fred ...
    	Will this work for VMS 5.3 also...??
    
    � j.
1508.12LESLIE::LESLIEAndy ��� LeslieTue Nov 14 1989 06:475
    Contribute to Fred's spare time: try it yourself and report the results
    back here.
    
    - Andy ��� Leslie
      VMS CSSE Newbury
1508.13FK::FREDSo sue me.Tue Nov 14 1989 10:168
    
    This has been answered before.  No V2 support yet.  I have to get the
    V2 server result and make whatever changes that may be required.
    
    This *should* happen sometime between now and December.
    
    _Fred