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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1475.0. "List of Drawing programs, anyone?" by HPSRAD::KOMAR (but I would be Proud to Partake of your Pecan Pie!) Thu Sep 21 1989 19:33

    
    
    I'm wondering what drawing programs are available under/over
    DECWindows.  I'm interested in products, potential products, midnight
    hacks,  and Third Party software.  (should I be asking this somewhere
    else?
    
    I think I'd like to see an "object oriented" graphical editor that has
    visible bounding box and visible connection type objects.
    
    I'd also like an editor that could take textual descriptions of
    drawings and lay them out.
    
    
    	What ever happened to EPIC/Draw?
    
    	Paul Komar.
    
    
    
    

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1475.1...here's a thought...GSRC::WESTVariables don't, Constants aren'tThu Sep 21 1989 23:047

  Check out CLOSET::DOC_GRAPHICS.  (Hit KP7 to select).

					-=> Jim <=-


1475.2PDVAX::P_DAVISPeter DavisFri Sep 22 1989 12:0121
    Re/ .0:
    
    There are a number of unsupported programs around, include idraw and
    hackdraw.  There is also RAGS, an editor developed by the Corporate
    User Publications people for their technical illustrators.  In
    addition, the recently released DECwrite includes a graphics editor
    which is about at the level of the original MACdraw.
    
    EPIC/Draw has evolved into two pieces:
    
     - DECpresenter, a complete presentation package, currently in Phase 2
       of development, and
    
     - an as-yet-unnamed graphics editor/illustration package, currently
       in advanced development.
    
    Can you explain what you mean by "visible connection type objects?"
    
    Thanks.
    -pd

1475.3HPSRAD::KOMAREntropy isn&#039;t what it used to beWed Sep 27 1989 19:1625
    
    	Hi, Peter.  We met once at TS's house once.
    
    	Anyway, what I mean by visible connection is a line (or curve or
    polyline) whose endpoints are associated with a pair of objects (say
    boxes). 
    
    	I want to be able to edit a drawing by moving a box that has one
    	end of a connection associated with it, and have the connection
    	"stretch" automagically.
    
    	That would make editing diagrams of finite state machines (FSMs)
    and Augmented Transition Networks (ATNs), _much_ easier.
    
    	My group is using FSMs to specify the behavior of concurrent
    systems (VAXCluster subsystems, like the CI).   We need both textual
    descriptions of the FSMs, for automatic test genereation/checking, and
    graphical representations to communicate the behavior.  Having a tool
    that could generate graphics from those descriptions would be great.
    
    		Paul Komar
    		VAXCluster Design Validation
    
    

1475.4What about ???YUPPY::CONNOLLYThu Sep 28 1989 05:384
    Doesnt DECdesign have these features????
    
    

1475.5DECdesign's got itGOBBLR::MULHERENKelly Mulheren, GObE &amp; NetEdThu Sep 28 1989 08:255
Yes, DECdesign (formerly ADT) has a nice State Transition Diagram editor.
See the ADT_IFT notesfile for more info (KP7).

-Kelly