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Conference bulova::decw_jan-89_to_nov-90

Title:DECWINDOWS 26-JAN-89 to 29-NOV-90
Notice:See 1639.0 for VMS V5.3 kit; 2043.0 for 5.4 IFT kit
Moderator:STAR::VATNE
Created:Mon Oct 30 1989
Last Modified:Mon Dec 31 1990
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:3726
Total number of notes:19516

1473.0. "CARDFILER & text I/O" by SPCTRM::GORCZYCA () Thu Sep 21 1989 17:04

I've read the "DESKTOP APPLICATIONS" manual and I've tried using all the
available menus and I still can't find any help on how to "import" and "export"
text information from/to other files to/from "cards".

It would also be nice to know what editor "Cardfinder" uses and if that editor
could be changed.

Is this a "user error"?  I.e., is this information published someplace obvious
that I've failed to find?  Or is it a secret?

Thanks for your help in advance.
John



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1473.1its in the manual, page 4-9VIA::FINNEGANAll of the best intentions are less than one good act.Thu Sep 21 1989 20:4532
The cardfiler uses the simple text widget which can be modified by settings its
translations in the applications default file

For example:

*DwtText.translations:	\
#augment \n\
     Ctrl<Key>e:        end-of-line()\n\
     Ctrl<Key>j:        delete-previous-word()\n\
     Ctrl<Key>h:        beginning-of-line()\n\
     Ctrl<Key>r:        redraw-display()\n\
     Ctrl<Key>u:        delete-to-start-of-line()\n
*SText.translations:	\
#augment \n\
     Ctrl<Key>e:        end-of-line()\n\
     Ctrl<Key>j:        delete-previous-word()\n\
     Ctrl<Key>h:        beginning-of-line()\n\
     Ctrl<Key>r:        redraw-display()\n\
     Ctrl<Key>u:        delete-to-start-of-line()\n

There have been other notes about setting text widget translations.

Page 4-9 in the Desktop Application guide shows how move text within a card and
between cards.  The mechanisms are global select and the clipboard.

You can also use global select and clipboard bewteen other applications such as
the terminal emulator, the notepad and calc that support text.

In V2, the is also clipboard support for DDIF images from/to paint.

Neal

1473.2No intrinsic CARDFILER capability?SPCTRM::GORCZYCAFri Sep 22 1989 12:4723
RE: .1

>>> You can also use global select and clipboard bewteen other applications 
>>> such as the terminal emulator, the notepad and calc that support text.

I assume by this response that the answer to my question is NO, there is no
mechanism WITHIN CARDFILER to import text from a file to a card or export 
text from a card to a file.  

Only the normal DECwindows text movement features are supported?

Note that I am using a PC server.  PCs have small screens and therefore multiple
application sessions frequently overlap each other on the screen.  This makes
it somewhat impractical to try to use the DECwindows methods for cutting and
pasting raw text between two such (overlapped) windows.  It can be done, but
it ain't fun.

Seems strange that this application supports the importation of graphics but not
of text.

John


1473.3DECWIN::FISHERBurns Fisher 381-1466, ZKO3-4/W23Mon Sep 25 1989 10:009
If you can't see the source and dest at the same time, try the clipboard.
For example, in DECterm, select what you want and use EDIT/COPY.  In the
cardfiler use EDIT/PASTE.

I realize this is still not what you asked for, but nonetheless...it addresses
your problem.

Burns

1473.4CARDBUILDORCAS::HORMANWEA Software SupportMon Sep 25 1989 16:509
There's a utility in the toolshed called CARDBUILD which will do
half of what you want: it will translate a textfile to cardfiler   
format. The textfile must adhere to certain formatting guidelines.

SEL or KP7 for METOO::SW_TOOLS_CLEARINGHOUSE. 
                               
Craig

1473.5Oops, try SW_TOOLS_CATALOGORCAS::HORMANWEA Software SupportMon Sep 25 1989 16:542

1473.6VIA::FINNEGANAll of the best intentions are less than one good act.Tue Sep 26 1989 11:324
I will add importing text to wish list for the next version.

Neal

1473.7Thanks. Exporting too???SPCTRM::GORCZYCAThu Sep 28 1989 12:0210
re: .6

Thanks for adding importing to the wish list....could I twist your arm to get
exporting included also (though less important since "card formated" files 
could be edited).

John